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<blockquote data-quote="Joe Liker" data-source="post: 6473091" data-attributes="member: 6777505"><p><strong>First, let me ask that we please not get into another bitch-fest about how adequately/poorly written the Stealth rules are. If you can't remain focused on the specific questions in this post, please go elsewhere to argue about the quality of the product. Thanks.</strong></p><p></p><p>In PH Appendix A, it tells me that an invisible creature is treated as heavily obscured for the purposes of stealth.</p><p></p><p>In Using Ability Scores under Stealth, it tells me that light conditions can affect a creature's ability to detect you while hidden: See Chapter 8.</p><p></p><p>In the same section under Perception, it tells me that you can use Perception to hear monsters moving stealthily, but no specifics or modifiers are given.</p><p></p><p>In Chapter 8 under Vision and Light, it tells me that Wisdom (Perception) checks have disadvantage in lightly obscured areas, and that heavy obscurement blocks vision entirely. Which is irrelevant because you're already invisible.</p><p></p><p>I can't find any mention of moving silently anywhere, except in passing. There are plenty of monsters in the monster manual who get advantage on Perception checks that involve hearing or smell.</p><p></p><p>Adding all this up, I guess I'll just say if you are invisible and trying to move silently, anyone trying to notice you or pinpoint your location would oppose your Dexterity (Stealth) roll with a Wisdom (Perception) check with disadvantage. That would cancel with the advantage for beasts with good hearing/smell, while making it somewhat more difficult for everyone else.</p><p></p><p>Does that seem right? I like that it's a simple solution, but I worry about the ramifications. Did I miss something somewhere?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joe Liker, post: 6473091, member: 6777505"] [B]First, let me ask that we please not get into another bitch-fest about how adequately/poorly written the Stealth rules are. If you can't remain focused on the specific questions in this post, please go elsewhere to argue about the quality of the product. Thanks.[/B] In PH Appendix A, it tells me that an invisible creature is treated as heavily obscured for the purposes of stealth. In Using Ability Scores under Stealth, it tells me that light conditions can affect a creature's ability to detect you while hidden: See Chapter 8. In the same section under Perception, it tells me that you can use Perception to hear monsters moving stealthily, but no specifics or modifiers are given. In Chapter 8 under Vision and Light, it tells me that Wisdom (Perception) checks have disadvantage in lightly obscured areas, and that heavy obscurement blocks vision entirely. Which is irrelevant because you're already invisible. I can't find any mention of moving silently anywhere, except in passing. There are plenty of monsters in the monster manual who get advantage on Perception checks that involve hearing or smell. Adding all this up, I guess I'll just say if you are invisible and trying to move silently, anyone trying to notice you or pinpoint your location would oppose your Dexterity (Stealth) roll with a Wisdom (Perception) check with disadvantage. That would cancel with the advantage for beasts with good hearing/smell, while making it somewhat more difficult for everyone else. Does that seem right? I like that it's a simple solution, but I worry about the ramifications. Did I miss something somewhere? [/QUOTE]
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