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<blockquote data-quote="buzzard" data-source="post: 1119083" data-attributes="member: 3003"><p>Oh so you've never patterned a shotgun before. At the range where you will be shooting skeet or trap, the shot pattern should be something like 18 inches. That's mighty close to the width of a torso. As long as the shot pattern overlaps the pigeon, it breaks. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gee, and that shotgun fires it's shot at around 1200-1400 fps. How fast does your bowshot go? (I'll answer the question myself, since I don't expect anything useful based on prior performance). Hmmm, about 450 fps with modern bows. Gee if we do a ratio type of thing, we end up with that skeet lead being roughly comparable. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since I was asking the question after reading about super speeds of 8K MPH, the matter might be a touch relevant. What if the speedster is doing 400 MPH? </p><p></p><p>Though since you are expert at all things of physics, riddle me this- what would the lead be for a bowshot at 230' at a target moving at a 20 fps perpendicular rate. Don't use a calculator now. That wouldn't be fair. You have six seconds. Oh, of course you better remember that the velocity of the arrow is not constant, and will decrease with range. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or maybe I could come to the board and listen to snide comments from people who are very taken with their own lack of useful information. That might simulate a different sort of reality. </p><p></p><p>If you don't think the discussion is worth the time, then move on. Someone else already offered some useful information (unlike you) with the d20 Modern speed penalties. </p><p></p><p></p><p>buzzard</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buzzard, post: 1119083, member: 3003"] Oh so you've never patterned a shotgun before. At the range where you will be shooting skeet or trap, the shot pattern should be something like 18 inches. That's mighty close to the width of a torso. As long as the shot pattern overlaps the pigeon, it breaks. Gee, and that shotgun fires it's shot at around 1200-1400 fps. How fast does your bowshot go? (I'll answer the question myself, since I don't expect anything useful based on prior performance). Hmmm, about 450 fps with modern bows. Gee if we do a ratio type of thing, we end up with that skeet lead being roughly comparable. Since I was asking the question after reading about super speeds of 8K MPH, the matter might be a touch relevant. What if the speedster is doing 400 MPH? Though since you are expert at all things of physics, riddle me this- what would the lead be for a bowshot at 230' at a target moving at a 20 fps perpendicular rate. Don't use a calculator now. That wouldn't be fair. You have six seconds. Oh, of course you better remember that the velocity of the arrow is not constant, and will decrease with range. Or maybe I could come to the board and listen to snide comments from people who are very taken with their own lack of useful information. That might simulate a different sort of reality. If you don't think the discussion is worth the time, then move on. Someone else already offered some useful information (unlike you) with the d20 Modern speed penalties. buzzard [/QUOTE]
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