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<blockquote data-quote="Markn" data-source="post: 5094879" data-attributes="member: 21827">Correct.&nbsp; What Cunning Sneak gives you, is that once you establish being hidden by having total cover, you can maintain being hidden with only cover or concealment and not total cover/concealment.&nbsp; Without this, the only way to become hidden is with total cover or complete concealment.Few other things of note:Sabrecat is correct in his reading of question 1 and 2.&nbsp; To expand on his second answer a bit - once you are hidden, you only become unhidden after the completion of an action.&nbsp; Thus, if you move and no longer have cover you are no longer hidden since the move action is completed.&nbsp; However, if you use an attack action and it lets you shift, then attack you are considered hidden (and thus get CA and sneak attack damage) until after the power has resolved.&nbsp; Once the power is resolved you are no longer hidden.&nbsp; As others have said, powers that let you move and attack as part of the same power are ideal for rogues who consider hiding their forte.&nbsp; Now combine this with Cunning Sneak and you could then move 3 squares after that attack where you have cover and you can attempt to hide again instead of requiring complete cover to hide again.&nbsp; This is the key here!Also, as others have said, once you get your head wrapped around it, its a pretty simple rule.&nbsp; Its just gettting the understanding of whats happening to begin with that makes hiding seem scary to deal with.Hope that helps</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Markn, post: 5094879, member: 21827"] Correct. What Cunning Sneak gives you, is that once you establish being hidden by having total cover, you can maintain being hidden with only cover or concealment and not total cover/concealment. Without this, the only way to become hidden is with total cover or complete concealment. Few other things of note: Sabrecat is correct in his reading of question 1 and 2. To expand on his second answer a bit - once you are hidden, you only become unhidden after the completion of an action. Thus, if you move and no longer have cover you are no longer hidden since the move action is completed. However, if you use an attack action and it lets you shift, then attack you are considered hidden (and thus get CA and sneak attack damage) until after the power has resolved. Once the power is resolved you are no longer hidden. As others have said, powers that let you move and attack as part of the same power are ideal for rogues who consider hiding their forte. Now combine this with Cunning Sneak and you could then move 3 squares after that attack where you have cover and you can attempt to hide again instead of requiring complete cover to hide again. This is the key here! Also, as others have said, once you get your head wrapped around it, its a pretty simple rule. Its just gettting the understanding of whats happening to begin with that makes hiding seem scary to deal with. Hope that helps [/QUOTE]

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