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<blockquote data-quote="KidSnide" data-source="post: 5110149" data-attributes="member: 54710">As DracoSuave said, that's not right.&nbsp; The power doesn't override any &quot;Becoming Hidden&quot; rule, it just provides a trigger that allows you to hide.&nbsp; It's like a Healing Surge trigger.&nbsp; Just like Second Wind lets you trigger a healing surge, Move lets you make a stealth check (at the end of your move).&nbsp; Healing Word doesn't override the Second Wind rule, it just provides another opportunity to spend a Healing Surge.&nbsp; Similarly, Fleeting Ghost Strike provides two additional opportunities to hide.Again, there is no stealth rule that says you cannot make a stealth check to hide.&nbsp; There is only the rule that says you can make a stealth check to hide after a move.&nbsp; There's no conflict.Those are treated differently because Logan is a Cunning Sneak and the benefit of Cunning Sneak is that it lets you become hidden with only regular concealment/cover (instead of total/superior) if you moved 3 squares from your starting position.&nbsp; That's the exception to the normal rule.&nbsp; There isn't an exception to the rule about re-hiding when your hidden status was lost during the same action.The difference is that, when Logan starts behind the pillar then he's gaining the benefit of being hidden for the whole move-attack-move.&nbsp; In the pillar example, Logan gets combat advantage during the attack at square &quot;x&quot;.&nbsp; That's a plus which comes at the expense of not being able to re-hide (without using a move action or other power to do so).If Logan didn't like the trade, he just shouts before attacking.&nbsp; That free action ends his hidden status.&nbsp; Then he can use his turn as if there pillar wasn't there.I agree that it's a little difficult to determine the reason for this rule.&nbsp; I guess it prevents regular rogues from dashing from stealth through no-cover and back into superior cover without revealing themselves first?&nbsp; Otherwise, every rogue would have half the benefit of Shadow Stride.That said, a house rule won't really affect much since 90 times out of a 100, Logan will have a free Move action at the end of this power if he wants to re-stealth or some other way to get combat advantage.-KSEDIT: Long pause mid-post.&nbsp; Again, agree with what DracoSuave says...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KidSnide, post: 5110149, member: 54710"] As DracoSuave said, that's not right. The power doesn't override any "Becoming Hidden" rule, it just provides a trigger that allows you to hide. It's like a Healing Surge trigger. Just like Second Wind lets you trigger a healing surge, Move lets you make a stealth check (at the end of your move). Healing Word doesn't override the Second Wind rule, it just provides [i]another[/i] opportunity to spend a Healing Surge. Similarly, Fleeting Ghost Strike provides two additional opportunities to hide. Again, there is no stealth rule that says you cannot make a stealth check to hide. There is only the rule that says you [b][i]can[/i][/b] make a stealth check to hide after a move. There's no conflict. Those are treated differently because Logan is a Cunning Sneak and the benefit of Cunning Sneak is that it lets you become hidden with only regular concealment/cover (instead of total/superior) if you moved 3 squares from your starting position. That's the exception to the normal rule. There isn't an exception to the rule about re-hiding when your hidden status was lost during the same action. The difference is that, when Logan starts behind the pillar then he's gaining the benefit of being hidden for the whole move-attack-move. In the pillar example, Logan gets combat advantage during the attack at square "x". That's a plus which comes at the expense of not being able to re-hide (without using a move action or other power to do so). If Logan didn't like the trade, he just shouts before attacking. That free action ends his hidden status. Then he can use his turn as if there pillar wasn't there. I agree that it's a little difficult to determine the reason for this rule. I guess it prevents regular rogues from dashing from stealth through no-cover and back into superior cover without revealing themselves first? Otherwise, every rogue would have half the benefit of Shadow Stride. That said, a house rule won't really affect much since 90 times out of a 100, Logan will have a free Move action at the end of this power if he wants to re-stealth or some other way to get combat advantage. -KS EDIT: Long pause mid-post. Again, agree with what DracoSuave says... [/QUOTE]

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