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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aaron2" data-source="post: 1759263" data-attributes="member: 1436">A couple things. 10 hit dice is probably too much for a natural animal. The base HD for a huge creatures is only 4. Just my feeling, but I'd top it out at 8. Also, I'd raise the Ride check DC for getting horses to approach to at least 25. Any horses trained around elephants should be immune to this effect.I don't see why you give the Howdah a hardness of 15 since it was made of leather. 5 should be enough. Also, the biggest one I've ever heard of could only hold 4 men. The driver (mahout?) sat exposed on the elephant's neck. A two-man howdah (one with long spear and one with short bow) was more common as well as elephants without a howdah where the driver and one rider (armed with javelins) sat on the back. Here's some pictures of the armored elephant display at the Royal Armories. Its fairly impressive in person. It is an armored elephant without a howdah. It is also lacking the lower leg protection needed to prevent hamstringing. In battle, elephants normally had light infantry attached to them to protect the creatures. <a href="http://www.cybershooters.org/Royal%20Armoury/Elephant.JPG" target="_blank">http://www.cybershooters.org/Royal Armoury/Elephant.JPG</a> (kinda dark)<a href="http://www.show.me.uk/dbimages/chunked_image/shm00467.JPG" target="_blank">http://www.show.me.uk/dbimages/chunked_image/shm00467.JPG</a> (kinda small)Nice topic though.Aaron</blockquote>