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<blockquote data-quote="DireWereTeddy" data-source="post: 5311086" data-attributes="member: 38160"><p>I'm just not seeing the connection. Maybe it'll make more sense to me when my Red Box this week. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But that's not anything new and I'm not understanding the connection to Magic specifically. It's modular game design. You use the source books you want in your game and ignore the rest. I'm pretty certain 2e did this. I know it worked in 3e because my group and I did it. And it's not just table top gaming. Video games do this when they release expansion packs. You can play the original or you can play with the expansion. Guild Wars even took it a step further. They have three different 'campaigns' all of which are stand alone. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War did this also. Most of the expansions were stand alone, but they also limited what you had available.</p><p></p><p>I think ultimately, I'm just not seeing the connection between the Red Box and Magic specifically. If anything, the contents makes me think of skirmish level table top wargaming more than anything. Not that I'm saying any of these similarities is a bad thing. I just think you're reading more into it than is actually there.</p><p></p><p>I also think you're assuming that the Magic crowd is younger in average age than the D&D crowd. I don't know if that is true. It certainly doesn't seem to be true in the area I live, but that may not be indicative of larger trends and patterns.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm curious as to why you assume there's no cross-pollination at all. I play Dungeons & Dragons, Magic: The Gathering, and Warhammer (both Fantasy and 40,000). I started Magic first, then Warhammer, and then D&D. I don't think any of the games themselves support or provide an inclination to any other form of table-top gaming, but I do think that someone who enjoys one has the potential to enjoy the other. And it would be bad business for WotC not to try marketing to a potential customer base.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DireWereTeddy, post: 5311086, member: 38160"] I'm just not seeing the connection. Maybe it'll make more sense to me when my Red Box this week. But that's not anything new and I'm not understanding the connection to Magic specifically. It's modular game design. You use the source books you want in your game and ignore the rest. I'm pretty certain 2e did this. I know it worked in 3e because my group and I did it. And it's not just table top gaming. Video games do this when they release expansion packs. You can play the original or you can play with the expansion. Guild Wars even took it a step further. They have three different 'campaigns' all of which are stand alone. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War did this also. Most of the expansions were stand alone, but they also limited what you had available. I think ultimately, I'm just not seeing the connection between the Red Box and Magic specifically. If anything, the contents makes me think of skirmish level table top wargaming more than anything. Not that I'm saying any of these similarities is a bad thing. I just think you're reading more into it than is actually there. I also think you're assuming that the Magic crowd is younger in average age than the D&D crowd. I don't know if that is true. It certainly doesn't seem to be true in the area I live, but that may not be indicative of larger trends and patterns. I'm curious as to why you assume there's no cross-pollination at all. I play Dungeons & Dragons, Magic: The Gathering, and Warhammer (both Fantasy and 40,000). I started Magic first, then Warhammer, and then D&D. I don't think any of the games themselves support or provide an inclination to any other form of table-top gaming, but I do think that someone who enjoys one has the potential to enjoy the other. And it would be bad business for WotC not to try marketing to a potential customer base. [/QUOTE]
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