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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 5002699" data-attributes="member: 12731">For player characters, I think it's clear: if it's a close burst (or similar), it's one attack. If it's something like Twin Strike, it's multiple attacks.When it comes to monsters, theoretically it should be the same. But I can definitely hear the argument that things that key off attacks (such as the Hospitaler ability) aren't really balanced like that.So it's hard to say something definitive. Each DM needs to make up his own mind.Probably it's best to consider monsters making double or triple attacks as doing only a single attack. Yes, it's &quot;cheating&quot;, but I can't see the benefit of allowing things like Hospitaler's Blessing to trigger three times. After all, how some monsters make few big attacks and others make several smaller ones is just fluff.However, several monsters have their actions set up in a way similar to this:m Double Stab (standard; at-will) Weapon The monster makes two attacks at the target; each at +10 vs AC, 1d6+3 damage.Combat Advantage The monster makes two Double Stab attacks against any target it has combat advantage againstIn this case, I would treat the monster doing one attack in general, but two against any flanked PC.The point is to treat each &quot;basic&quot; ability as one attack. Other abilities that say &quot;use this other ability more times&quot; translate into that many attacks (from the Hospitaler's point of view)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 5002699, member: 12731"] For player characters, I think it's clear: if it's a close burst (or similar), it's one attack. If it's something like Twin Strike, it's multiple attacks. When it comes to monsters, theoretically it should be the same. But I can definitely hear the argument that things that key off attacks (such as the Hospitaler ability) aren't really balanced like that. So it's hard to say something definitive. Each DM needs to make up his own mind. Probably it's best to consider monsters making double or triple attacks as doing only a single attack. Yes, it's "cheating", but I can't see the benefit of allowing things like Hospitaler's Blessing to trigger three times. After all, how some monsters make few big attacks and others make several smaller ones is just fluff. However, several monsters have their actions set up in a way similar to this: m [B]Double Stab[/B] (standard; at-will) [B]Weapon[/B] The monster makes two attacks at the target; each at +10 vs AC, 1d6+3 damage. [B]Combat Advantage[/B] The monster makes two Double Stab attacks against any target it has combat advantage against In this case, I would treat the monster doing one attack in general, but two against any flanked PC. The point is to treat each "basic" ability as one attack. Other abilities that say "use this other ability more times" translate into that many attacks (from the Hospitaler's point of view) [/QUOTE]

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