Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Xeterog" data-source="post: 5241338" data-attributes="member: 84369">For what it is worth.&nbsp; I've always played that one attack line is one attack..so the Hydra has to just target the defender with one head, and the Beholder is not unduly punished because it has to target separate enemies with it's eye rays.Been playing it this way since before 4E came out (Keep on the Shadowfell came out with preview rules), so over 2 years now.&nbsp; The Party is level 28 now and has had no problem with this at all.&nbsp; Our Defender is a Paladin.&nbsp; I trigger his mark often enough (or target him instead of one of his allies)...he does not appear to feel weaker or nerfed by this at all.&nbsp; And there are plenty of monsters that multiattack out there.Maybe one of the reasons is the party is mostly ranged attackers (Greatbow Ranger, Warlock, Wizard, Cleric are 4 of the other 5 pcs), but often, the Paladin is the only target in range for a Melee multi-targeter anyway. I really feel that not doing it this way greatly increases the defender's power.&nbsp; Currently, if I violate the paladins challenge/sanction, not only does the monster have a -2 to hit, but takes 17 radiant damage and is weakened if the attack actually hits.&nbsp; But if I target the Paladin, his 49+ AC is a pain to hit (missing on a 15 consistantly is annoying, even for a DM). Heck, everyone I play with plays it this way (whether I'm a player or a DM)...I come to expect it that way (and I play mostly defenders)...and I don't feel like I'm not able to defend or am weakened/nerfed that multi-attackers probably won't trigger my mark (not even the -2) if they include me...at least they are splitting up their attacks and not focusing fire on anyone in particular.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xeterog, post: 5241338, member: 84369"] For what it is worth. I've always played that one attack line is one attack..so the Hydra has to just target the defender with one head, and the Beholder is not unduly punished because it has to target separate enemies with it's eye rays. Been playing it this way since before 4E came out (Keep on the Shadowfell came out with preview rules), so over 2 years now. The Party is level 28 now and has had no problem with this at all. Our Defender is a Paladin. I trigger his mark often enough (or target him instead of one of his allies)...he does not appear to feel weaker or nerfed by this at all. And there are plenty of monsters that multiattack out there. Maybe one of the reasons is the party is mostly ranged attackers (Greatbow Ranger, Warlock, Wizard, Cleric are 4 of the other 5 pcs), but often, the Paladin is the only target in range for a Melee multi-targeter anyway. I really feel that not doing it this way greatly increases the defender's power. Currently, if I violate the paladins challenge/sanction, not only does the monster have a -2 to hit, but takes 17 radiant damage and is weakened if the attack actually hits. But if I target the Paladin, his 49+ AC is a pain to hit (missing on a 15 consistantly is annoying, even for a DM). Heck, everyone I play with plays it this way (whether I'm a player or a DM)...I come to expect it that way (and I play mostly defenders)...and I don't feel like I'm not able to defend or am weakened/nerfed that multi-attackers probably won't trigger my mark (not even the -2) if they include me...at least they are splitting up their attacks and not focusing fire on anyone in particular. [/QUOTE]

Verification