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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5244945" data-attributes="member: 51942">To avoid too much confusion I'd like to keep to monsters.&nbsp; I looked through the MM2, and found the centaur hunter on page 30 - that power works pretty much the same; it's a ranged power with 1, 2, or 3 targets.This is what I asked; let's hope they give a general answer - or if we're really lucky, this get's stuck in a FAQ:Thanks for the extremely quick and clear answer!&nbsp; I now realize that the&nbsp; Hydra example doesn't fully cover it; as you mention it is an attack&nbsp; power that consists of several (basic) attacks.&nbsp; Other monsters powers'&nbsp; aren't so clear-cut.

In the MM2 (page 30), the Centaur Hunter has a power:
Triple Shot
Ranged 25/50; targets one, two, or three creatures; +19 vs. AC; 1d12+5 damage.

If&nbsp; the centaur targets the marking creature (the defender), can he target&nbsp; two other creatures without taking the marking penalty - or do the&nbsp; attack rolls against the other creatures count as separate attacks too?

In&nbsp; general, how can I distinguish between attacks that can include several&nbsp; creatures (e.g. a breath weapon) and attacks that consist of seperate&nbsp; attacks on several creatures?
I'm still not convinced that RAI is actually any different that RAW here, but you certainly have me doubting it; and there's no question that it's easy for a casual reader to get confused.&nbsp; In my experience, particularly the combat section is just skimmed - people read one example of a melee attack and one of an area attack, and say &quot;I get it, area attacks target multiple guys&quot; and then extrapolate from that to ranged/close attacks and miss lots of details (e.g., stuff like cover/concealment/prone and the distinctions between the attack types there).On the other hand, once the campaign meets something like the Iron Armbands of Power and if they figure out that they won't work for close attacks, that should inspire some people to realize that things can be a little tricky.&nbsp; And certainly things like Passing Attack and Attacks on the Run - if ever done while marked - inevitably lead to this question.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5244945, member: 51942"] To avoid too much confusion I'd like to keep to monsters. I looked through the MM2, and found the centaur hunter on page 30 - that power works pretty much the same; it's a ranged power with 1, 2, or 3 targets. This is what I asked; let's hope they give a general answer - or if we're really lucky, this get's stuck in a FAQ:[INDENT]Thanks for the extremely quick and clear answer! I now realize that the Hydra example doesn't fully cover it; as you mention it is an attack power that consists of several (basic) attacks. Other monsters powers' aren't so clear-cut. In the MM2 (page 30), the Centaur Hunter has a power: Triple Shot Ranged 25/50; targets one, two, or three creatures; +19 vs. AC; 1d12+5 damage. If the centaur targets the marking creature (the defender), can he target two other creatures without taking the marking penalty - or do the attack rolls against the other creatures count as separate attacks too? In general, how can I distinguish between attacks that can include several creatures (e.g. a breath weapon) and attacks that consist of seperate attacks on several creatures? [/INDENT]I'm still not convinced that RAI is actually any different that RAW here, but you certainly have me doubting it; and there's no question that it's easy for a casual reader to get confused. In my experience, particularly the combat section is just skimmed - people read one example of a melee attack and one of an area attack, and say "I get it, area attacks target multiple guys" and then extrapolate from that to ranged/close attacks and miss lots of details (e.g., stuff like cover/concealment/prone and the distinctions between the attack types there). On the other hand, once the campaign meets something like the Iron Armbands of Power and if they figure out that they won't work for close attacks, that should inspire some people to realize that things can be a little tricky. And certainly things like [I]Passing Attack[/I] and [I]Attacks on the Run[/I] - if ever done while marked - inevitably lead to this question. [/QUOTE]

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