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Message: <blockquote data-quote="santosud37" data-source="post: 9522097" data-attributes="member: 7048156">I was saying nothing about abilities so am not sure where you got that information from. I am only talking about level limitations for demi-humans. In this case for the Elven racial class as a Thief. I started playing D&D back in the late '70s and continued on and off in the '80s and early '90s. I have the Basic and Expert Box Sets, 1st ed, rules with the PHB and D&D Rules Cyclopedia and later pn bought 2nd ed. PHB and DMG and other books from that. Let me try again with the question as I am not running or playing in a campaign at this time. I noticed this problem while running through my Castle Construction in the Forgotten Realms. This is in accordance with the 2nd Ed. DMG pg. 15 with its optional max level limits. I can only go to certain levels for demi-humans. I have 2 Elven Thieves that are 17th and 20th Level, respectively, the 17th Level Thief is a Female High Elf that has a 17 Dex, max limit for a Female, and a 20th Level Male High Elf with Max 18 Dex ability. According to the 2nd Ed DMG and its optional rules I am only allowed to go to 14th and 15th level as a Elven Thief with the max Dexes respectively. Since I noticed this now and want to run a campaign using these chars am I allowed to run back the XP and multi-class the chars? Or should I go on with the Levels and XP, per the 0D&D Rules Cyclopedia, pgs 24-26, for an Elf where there is NO Level Limit for races? I do have 2 Fighter/Magic-User High Elves that started from 0D&D as well that are progressing past there level limits but have not exceeded the 2nd ed. rules yet. All my mid-level chars (12 of them in total) started from the Basic box set from 0 Level back in the '70s. I have 2 Dwarven Fighters as well. I am considering running the XP back for the Elven Thieves, 1 being either a Thief/Thief Acrobat or a Thief/Magic-User and the other being a Thief/Ranger if this is possible? I do understand the balancing issue with 1000 year old Elves and 100s of year old Demi-Humans issue for the game.Thank you in advance for any suggestions!</blockquote>

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