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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Malin Genie" data-source="post: 1681429" data-attributes="member: 1058">You're both right, in a way.  Once you hit Epic levels in terms of your total character level, you no longer gain BAB and saves as per the standard progression, but rather by the Epic Progression.  On the other hand, when advancing in a class, you gain class abilities (other than BAB and saves) as per the normal class progression until you hit Epic levels in that class.So advancing from Wiz20 to Wiz21 does not gain you any additional spells per day, but instead advances you along the Epic Wizard progression.  On the other hand, advancing from Wiz10 to Wiz11, even if your total character level is 21, grants you the normal increase in both spells/day and caster level, the normal increase in your familiar's abilities, etc.Note that this can lead to odd situations, where a character who is a Ftr20 then takes 10 levels of Wizard has BAB +25/+20/+15/+10, but a Ftr10/Wiz10 who then takes another 10 levels of Ftr only has BAB +20/+15/+10.</blockquote>