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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8914343" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Yes...and that was explicitly one of the things the poster cited. Being able to nova so hard it startles the DM.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah...and Barbarian isn't that much better at it than a Hexblade/Paladin multiclass.</p><p></p><p></p><p>From 2016, when Sage Advice tweets were still considered official, the answer is <a href="https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/803419148957032448?s=20&t=RKlmp8BG-2cBbKhguvUFJg" target="_blank">yes, you can</a>. Which makes sense, since Eldritch Smite is literally identical to baseline Divine Smite except with a superior damage type (force vs radiant) and knocking most targets prone.</p><p></p><p>The crux of my response here is the following:</p><p>1. Two of the three parts of this multi-multiclass are much stronger for MC than any other option. The third is weaker, <em>except</em> that they chose the one subclass which compensates.</p><p>2. The poster downplays things and speaks about versatility....and then takes pride in the <em>power</em> they can employ.</p><p>3. <em>Even given all of that</em>, I'm skeptical because this is an 11th-level character making use of 5th-level-or-lower features. That's a pretty big gap, and if the DM is actually getting caught with their pants down <em>despite</em> it, that seems to say more about the DM's actions than the player's.</p><p></p><p>The vast majority of multiclass combos are a downgrade in 5e, and of those that are not, most are one-level or three-level dips. Versatility is rarely actually worthwhile, unless the versatile bits align quite nicely.</p><p></p><p>I don't want to demean or downplay the poster's experiences. They're having fun, and that's great. But their experience is objectively not representative of <em>most</em> multiclassing choices, and even accounting for that component, I strongly suspect that there are other reasons their experience isn't representative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8914343, member: 6790260"] Yes...and that was explicitly one of the things the poster cited. Being able to nova so hard it startles the DM. Yeah...and Barbarian isn't that much better at it than a Hexblade/Paladin multiclass. From 2016, when Sage Advice tweets were still considered official, the answer is [URL='https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/status/803419148957032448?s=20&t=RKlmp8BG-2cBbKhguvUFJg']yes, you can[/URL]. Which makes sense, since Eldritch Smite is literally identical to baseline Divine Smite except with a superior damage type (force vs radiant) and knocking most targets prone. The crux of my response here is the following: 1. Two of the three parts of this multi-multiclass are much stronger for MC than any other option. The third is weaker, [I]except[/I] that they chose the one subclass which compensates. 2. The poster downplays things and speaks about versatility....and then takes pride in the [I]power[/I] they can employ. 3. [I]Even given all of that[/I], I'm skeptical because this is an 11th-level character making use of 5th-level-or-lower features. That's a pretty big gap, and if the DM is actually getting caught with their pants down [I]despite[/I] it, that seems to say more about the DM's actions than the player's. The vast majority of multiclass combos are a downgrade in 5e, and of those that are not, most are one-level or three-level dips. Versatility is rarely actually worthwhile, unless the versatile bits align quite nicely. I don't want to demean or downplay the poster's experiences. They're having fun, and that's great. But their experience is objectively not representative of [I]most[/I] multiclassing choices, and even accounting for that component, I strongly suspect that there are other reasons their experience isn't representative. [/QUOTE]
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