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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 922968" data-attributes="member: 8439">So I'm considering a prestige class which depends on both charisma and constitution to be effective for the spells/supernatural abilities. (not sure which was they will fall at this point).&nbsp; I want this to have drawbacks (need con-10 and cha-10 to spell level to cast, concentration duration spells now limited by con, etc) and possible advantages (save dcs = 10 + spell level + cha modifier + 1/2 con modifier).How bad is stacking modifiers for save dcs in terms of balance? Bear in mind that since this will be a &quot;start over on spell level&quot; PrC, the saves will be lower than if the spell was gained through normal progression. (ie, PrC gets horrid wilting around the same time as a straight wiz would, but its listed as a 4th level spell for them, hence -4 to the DC)Thoughts? benifits worth the drawbacks?Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 922968, member: 8439"] So I'm considering a prestige class which depends on both charisma and constitution to be effective for the spells/supernatural abilities. (not sure which was they will fall at this point). I want this to have drawbacks (need con-10 and cha-10 to spell level to cast, concentration duration spells now limited by con, etc) and possible advantages (save dcs = 10 + spell level + cha modifier + 1/2 con modifier). How bad is stacking modifiers for save dcs in terms of balance? Bear in mind that since this will be a "start over on spell level" PrC, the saves will be lower than if the spell was gained through normal progression. (ie, PrC gets horrid wilting around the same time as a straight wiz would, but its listed as a 4th level spell for them, hence -4 to the DC) Thoughts? benifits worth the drawbacks? Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]

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