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<blockquote data-quote="Virindi" data-source="post: 4760002" data-attributes="member: 70777">I think one wouldn't be able to retrain your MC feat into a non-MC feat, since you can't retrain out of a feat if there is something that has it as a prerequisite. But changing which power you have swapped out with the power swap feats is not covered under retraining. It is covered under the rules of the power swap feats. Notably: &quot;Any time you gain a level, you can alter that decision.&quot;I will admit that the having to change them to invoker isn't explicitly stated, but the power swap feats say you are supposed to have powers from your MCed class.I think it is fair to say you shouldn't be able to keep the powers from your old MC class, otherwise you could take MC feat for warrior, take the encounter power swap feat for a fighter encounter power, later switch the MC feat to paladin, take the utility power swap feat for a paladin ability, then later switch the MC feat to barbarian, and take the the daily power swap feat for a barbarian daily power, and finally switch your MC feat to ranger, and take advantage of that feats hunter quarry feature.Anyways, I just trying to get others ideas on the intent of the rules on this one. I am just not sure if A)he gets 3 &quot;free&quot; for lack of better term, retrains to his new multiclass. Since PHB 208 says anytime you gain a level you can alter that decision. B)Or after he retrains to MC invoker: if he has to retrain each powerswap one at a time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Virindi, post: 4760002, member: 70777"] I think one wouldn't be able to retrain your MC feat into a non-MC feat, since you can't retrain out of a feat if there is something that has it as a prerequisite. But changing which power you have swapped out with the power swap feats is not covered under retraining. It is covered under the rules of the power swap feats. Notably: "Any time you gain a level, you can alter that decision." I will admit that the having to change them to invoker isn't explicitly stated, but the power swap feats say you are supposed to have powers from your MCed class. I think it is fair to say you shouldn't be able to keep the powers from your old MC class, otherwise you could take MC feat for warrior, take the encounter power swap feat for a fighter encounter power, later switch the MC feat to paladin, take the utility power swap feat for a paladin ability, then later switch the MC feat to barbarian, and take the the daily power swap feat for a barbarian daily power, and finally switch your MC feat to ranger, and take advantage of that feats hunter quarry feature. Anyways, I just trying to get others ideas on the intent of the rules on this one. I am just not sure if A)he gets 3 "free" for lack of better term, retrains to his new multiclass. Since PHB 208 says anytime you gain a level you can alter that decision. B)Or after he retrains to MC invoker: if he has to retrain each powerswap one at a time. [/QUOTE]

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