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<blockquote data-quote="RyvenCedrylle" data-source="post: 4760027" data-attributes="member: 66726"><p>fba is correct by RAW from page 28 of PHBI</p><p></p><p>"You can't replace a feat if it's a prerequisite for any other attribute you have (another feat or paragon path, for instance)..."</p><p></p><p>That being said, if you swap out one multiclass feat for another multiclass feat, the new feat is still a prerequisite for the feat chain that would have been made null. To the best of my knowledge, the power swap feats are the only feats with multiple, mutually exclusive, equivalent prerequisites. I believe the RAI here would allow you to retrain a multiclass feat to another multiclass feat with no problem. </p><p></p><p>As for the mechanics of such a thing.. there's going to be no RAW or RAI about this at all, I expect. You have several options; I would choose different methods depending on the situation:</p><p></p><p>1) Swapping one multiclass feat for another from the same class (Student of the Sword to Combat Awareness) - no powers change.</p><p></p><p>2) Swapping one multiclass feat to something thematically like either the base or original multiclass (Ranger mc Wizard to mc Sorcerer or mc Druid) - switch out all your powers in one shot and go with it. It's not jarring. This is where you are, IMHO. If a cleric starts throwing around new divine magic all of a sudden, I would have no problem with that. I'd like a roleplay or story arc reason, but it won't bug me.</p><p></p><p>3) Swapping one multiclass feat to something utterly off-the-wall (Fighter mc Warlord to mc Druid) - your powers revert to Fighter powers for now and you can toy with them next level. Yes, this probably goes against 4E's underlying effects-based design. It's a pretty bizzare change though and I would want to discourage repetitive, random multiclass swapping. You also better have a darn good character reason for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RyvenCedrylle, post: 4760027, member: 66726"] fba is correct by RAW from page 28 of PHBI "You can't replace a feat if it's a prerequisite for any other attribute you have (another feat or paragon path, for instance)..." That being said, if you swap out one multiclass feat for another multiclass feat, the new feat is still a prerequisite for the feat chain that would have been made null. To the best of my knowledge, the power swap feats are the only feats with multiple, mutually exclusive, equivalent prerequisites. I believe the RAI here would allow you to retrain a multiclass feat to another multiclass feat with no problem. As for the mechanics of such a thing.. there's going to be no RAW or RAI about this at all, I expect. You have several options; I would choose different methods depending on the situation: 1) Swapping one multiclass feat for another from the same class (Student of the Sword to Combat Awareness) - no powers change. 2) Swapping one multiclass feat to something thematically like either the base or original multiclass (Ranger mc Wizard to mc Sorcerer or mc Druid) - switch out all your powers in one shot and go with it. It's not jarring. This is where you are, IMHO. If a cleric starts throwing around new divine magic all of a sudden, I would have no problem with that. I'd like a roleplay or story arc reason, but it won't bug me. 3) Swapping one multiclass feat to something utterly off-the-wall (Fighter mc Warlord to mc Druid) - your powers revert to Fighter powers for now and you can toy with them next level. Yes, this probably goes against 4E's underlying effects-based design. It's a pretty bizzare change though and I would want to discourage repetitive, random multiclass swapping. You also better have a darn good character reason for it. [/QUOTE]
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