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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Smog" data-source="post: 4610592" data-attributes="member: 81757">I'm failing to see the difference in these two scenarios.  I understand that because of the rules on p41 that you are unable to use the power-swap options of paragon multiclassing, but I see no restrictions as to taking all 3 of the power swap feats listed before that section and then taking Spellscarred Savant.EDIT: I see the difference now.  It's late and this subject is a bit convoluted with so many similar phrases being thrown about.  Thank you very much Kordeth (and OPS!)And OPS, you may want to look very closely as what you're saying about PMC'ing.  Just using the core rules, you still do not have to take all three of the power swap feats to meet the requirements of multiclassing into a paragon path of a different class.  In fact, the first example the PHB gives outright says all you need to take is the appropriate multiclass feat. Reference p53, PHB, under 'Introducing the Paragon Paths'. Second paragraph. "For example, you can take the angelic avenger paragon path if you're a cleric or if you have selected a cleric multiclass feat."  Note it doesn't mention any of the power swap feats being required, nor are they required to take the multiclass feat initially. (In fact it's the very opposite)The only purpose the power swap feats serve is just that: to swap your abilities with the abilities of the class you've MC'd into.  I believe the confusion is stemming from the quote you and I started and finished earlier.  All it is saying is that once you take all three feats, you then have the option of not taking a paragon path and simply taking powers from your second class in place of a paragon path.I can definitely see where the confusion comes from though. (Obviously as spellscarred had me confused initially)  WotC definitely could have done a better job editting and refining that section of the PHB. (and the FRPG)</blockquote>

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