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<blockquote data-quote="theNater" data-source="post: 4285145" data-attributes="member: 62560"><p>I stop at flavor text because flavor text has no effect on game balance. Once you start rewriting mechanics, things sometimes stop working.</p><p></p><p>I sympathize with you on feeling decieved. However, I don't think that having a character who is as good a ranged attacker as a Ranger and as good a healer as a Cleric is a good idea.</p><p></p><p>Yup, I misremembered that. Sorry. Ranger/Cleric does not provide very much healing. I stand by my claim that Cleric/Ranger provides a decent amount of archery, especially if you're willing to reflavor Cleric powers.</p><p></p><p>Also, I'd like to point out that a 4th edition Cleric using a basic ranged attack with a bow is more likely to hit than a 3rd edition Cleric attacking with a bow.</p><p></p><p>I have never said either of those things. However, I do feel that some people are having more trouble than necessary reconcepting their characters. There are Cleric builds for healing while attacking at range. They don't use a bow by default, but they are there.</p><p></p><p>I admit that I don't get why you dislike the rules. They don't have an easy way for you to build exactly the same character as you had in 3rd edition. But that was never promised.</p><p></p><p>They don't let a character have a 50/50 split on character abilities. But they do let the character be very good at his primary thing while not making him completely unable to do other things.</p><p></p><p>Is the problem one of those things? If not, can you elaborate on what it is?</p><p></p><p>There is a lot you can do with just the core books. And the suggestion that multiclassing is useless is quite inaccurate. It is not universally useful, but there have been a few suggested multiclass builds that use synergies between classes to devastating effect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="theNater, post: 4285145, member: 62560"] I stop at flavor text because flavor text has no effect on game balance. Once you start rewriting mechanics, things sometimes stop working. I sympathize with you on feeling decieved. However, I don't think that having a character who is as good a ranged attacker as a Ranger and as good a healer as a Cleric is a good idea. Yup, I misremembered that. Sorry. Ranger/Cleric does not provide very much healing. I stand by my claim that Cleric/Ranger provides a decent amount of archery, especially if you're willing to reflavor Cleric powers. Also, I'd like to point out that a 4th edition Cleric using a basic ranged attack with a bow is more likely to hit than a 3rd edition Cleric attacking with a bow. I have never said either of those things. However, I do feel that some people are having more trouble than necessary reconcepting their characters. There are Cleric builds for healing while attacking at range. They don't use a bow by default, but they are there. I admit that I don't get why you dislike the rules. They don't have an easy way for you to build exactly the same character as you had in 3rd edition. But that was never promised. They don't let a character have a 50/50 split on character abilities. But they do let the character be very good at his primary thing while not making him completely unable to do other things. Is the problem one of those things? If not, can you elaborate on what it is? There is a lot you can do with just the core books. And the suggestion that multiclassing is useless is quite inaccurate. It is not universally useful, but there have been a few suggested multiclass builds that use synergies between classes to devastating effect. [/QUOTE]
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