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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dormain1" data-source="post: 4289164" data-attributes="member: 61912">I wonder if people could post some of the previous versions of MC rules they playtestedthe way it looks to me is that they found the initate feat too powerful if it granted 1 @will as an encounter and the other class abilities so they nurfed it lets look at them one by onefighter init +1 1 rd/encounter and mark and a skillcleric init healing word 1/day a set skill and implementpaladin init div challenge 1/encounter and a skill and implementranger init hunter quarry 1rd/encounder and a skillrogue sneak attack 1rd/encounter and a set skillwarlord inpire word 1/day and a skillwizard 1@will as an encounter and a set skill and a implementeach one as a feat is powerful, skill training and a power but it is not mutliclassingthe powers are rather weak when you look at them ie the fighter one is not worth it IMO, the cleric one is not bad but what if you don't want that abilityI think the problem is that people cannot choose their own power but if WotC did it any other way it may become unbalanceIt probably should have been grant 1 skill from class list, and shift all class features gained one over ie @wills become encounter, encounter become daily's etc AND only accessable at first levelthat makes the feat really powerful sure but being only able to take it at first balances it somewhat even take out the bonus skillsome people will think its the way to go to optimise but all it does is give some versitilityI don't have a problem with the other MC feats just the initiate feat</blockquote>

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