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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4302702" data-attributes="member: 19675">Well argued.Yes, the power you described is indeed clerical spellcasting.OTOH, the power swap feats don't let you have anything from the "At Will category," nor anything from the (as yet non-existent) non-Attack category of Clerical Prayers.  Should something like that be added to the game, PC's will need to burn more feats.Perhaps its a matter of flavor- in a realm where everyone has powers and so forth, a cleric who can't Channel Divine sounds gimpy & non-Clericy to me. He can't be a direct conduit for his god's will like all the real clerics can.If you're a Christian (or understand its heirarchies,) to me its like the difference between a priest and a deacon.  Depending upon denomination, a deacon can do a little or a lot of what the priest can, but regardless of denomination, he can't do it all.  That PC was a front-line fighter who eventually became the sole source of Turning, etc. in the party, without stepping away from the front.  That PC can't be done in 4Ed without seriously altering the sequence of character development because the multiclassing feat doesn't grant the requisite abilities. As a matter of fact, nil.Nobody in my various groups- myself included- thinks much of 4Ed. Perhaps from a mechanical point, but the flavor is quite off.  And off-putting.</blockquote>