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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4303040" data-attributes="member: 19675">In 3.X, anyone could, if they multiclassed into the right class.  The PC was evenly divided between Ftr and Cleric. I'm looking at the game from 2 different sets of criteria:Set 1: How good is the game as a replacement for previously published versions of D&D as a Player and DM.Set 2: How good is the game in and of itself (as player & game master)- as a FRPG with the numbers filed off (IOW, ignoring its connection to D&D).From the perspective of Set 2, it does pretty well.  The lengthening lists of typos & editing errors notwithstanding (there's a whole thread on it stickied for ease of use) game is fairly clean.From the perspective of Set 1, its getting an "D" from me, and also from a host of other gamers of my acquaintence, each with long histories of gaming.  As of yet, not a one has considered purchasing the game or, more importantly, teaching it to their kids.What would they pass on to the next generation of gamers?  1Ed? Some would, and 2Ed, a few more.  3.X is, in their eyes, a resounding success that they're more than willing to play with their kids.  4Ed, though...Besides, the main "solution" we're looking for is continuing using the established campaigns we're playing, regardless of ruleset.  Were Q to pop up and destroy all of the universe's 3.X books in order to make us update to 4Ed, we'd still have to wait at least a year before doing so...if we could.  Our Gnome (MM only, not in PHB) Cleric/Monk (not in 4Ed), our 1/2 Orc (not in 4Ed) Druid (not in 4Ed)/Barbarian (not in 4Ed), our Fighter/Druid (not in 4Ed), our Ftr/Rgr (no TWF in 4Ed multiclassing)/SpecWiz Diviner (not in 4Ed)/Spellsword would all be gone. Some others would have lost abilities and/or flexibility.Think of it like a legacy software problem.  I've already been through an update in which a particular software company replaced its own database/spreadsheet product with another one so different, it couldn't even import the data (and, as it turned out, neither could anyone else's).  I had to pay someone $$$$ to handle the data translation (or re-enter a decade of data by hand) in order to get access to those databases & spreadsheets again.</blockquote>

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