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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Shadow" data-source="post: 6004341" data-attributes="member: 16760">Possible, I suppose - though a little hard on people who don't use XP.Yep.  It was mentioned at the <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showwiki.php?title=D+and+D+Next:+Classes" target="_blank">class design seminar at DDXP.</a>Hmmm.  I see your point.  Well, one solution might be to take the higher 1st-level value, then add on the amount each class has progressed since 1st level.  (As you said, like 3e saving throw bonuses.)  It's a little more complicated, but not horribly so.And yes, the flat math helps a lot.  So does the boosted magic-attack numbers for primary spellcasters.  They're equivalent to fighters in their bailiwick.I'm actually a little surprised that the playtest classes *don't* have abilities spread out over the first three levels, that's what I understood them to say they intended to do.I'm not very familiar with Star Wars SAGA, how did it work?Good point.  Proficiencies *are* specifically listed as 'if this is your first class'.And of course feats and skills come strictly from specialties and backgrounds... with the exception of the Rogue, who gets an extra background.  That in itself, plus Skill Mastery, makes single-level dipping into rogue very tempting.I think there *has* to be some way to pick up proficiencies from a new class, though.  But it doesn't have to be automatic.  Maybe a rogue who becomes a fighter really doesn't gain any new weapons or armor by default - he just fights better.  It's really harsh on a wizard who becomes a fighter, though!EDIT:  They also need to come up with a way to keep caster-level issues from popping up.  And for Pete's sake, it makes perfect sense for wizard and sorcerer levels to synergize somehow!  But I'm still working on exactly how. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />EDIT:  PS.  I just got the pun in your name, and it's AWFUL!  Well done! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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