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<blockquote data-quote="marsupial_riot" data-source="post: 6472706" data-attributes="member: 6787760"><p>your understanding of the entry is different from mine, and that is ok.</p><p></p><p>please do note, just so there is no confusion, that it is not as ironclad as you want it to be. the entry merely says that the table MIGHT give you slots for spells you don't have of that level, as with every spell caster you choose your own spells known or prepared (specifically determined by the spell slots you have available as noted in EVERY spell caster class entry). a character may indeed have only a selection of spells that are of a lower level than their highest level spell slot, this is true even of non-multiclassing characters.</p><p></p><p>and furthermore, to your anecdotal experience, lets continue on with a full progression ranger and wizard from the example, lets say 10 levels each for 20 total levels. that character too would miss out on just as many class features including:</p><p></p><p>11th level ranger archetype feature</p><p>2 x 12th level ability score improvement</p><p>favored enemy improvement</p><p>vanish</p><p>15th level ranger archetype feature</p><p>2 x 16th level ability score improvement</p><p>feral senses</p><p>2x 19th level ability score improvement</p><p>foe slayer</p><p>14th level arcane tradition feature</p><p>spell mastery</p><p>signature spell</p><p></p><p>so i hardly understand how the feature they currently have (spell casting) should be stunted merely because they multiclass, considering all these abilities they too will be missing.</p><p></p><p>again, it seems to be more of a philosophical difference in opinion. you believe that there is an inherent unbalancing by following the system that is laid out for all casters. i do not. the spells that a cleric 10/wizard 10 would be casting are no more powerful than those of a cleric 20 or wizard 20. to think otherwise is fallacy. furthermore they have no more spell slots than any other full progression spellcaster. in fact, it is a very elegant and well thought out design for multiclassing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="marsupial_riot, post: 6472706, member: 6787760"] your understanding of the entry is different from mine, and that is ok. please do note, just so there is no confusion, that it is not as ironclad as you want it to be. the entry merely says that the table MIGHT give you slots for spells you don't have of that level, as with every spell caster you choose your own spells known or prepared (specifically determined by the spell slots you have available as noted in EVERY spell caster class entry). a character may indeed have only a selection of spells that are of a lower level than their highest level spell slot, this is true even of non-multiclassing characters. and furthermore, to your anecdotal experience, lets continue on with a full progression ranger and wizard from the example, lets say 10 levels each for 20 total levels. that character too would miss out on just as many class features including: 11th level ranger archetype feature 2 x 12th level ability score improvement favored enemy improvement vanish 15th level ranger archetype feature 2 x 16th level ability score improvement feral senses 2x 19th level ability score improvement foe slayer 14th level arcane tradition feature spell mastery signature spell so i hardly understand how the feature they currently have (spell casting) should be stunted merely because they multiclass, considering all these abilities they too will be missing. again, it seems to be more of a philosophical difference in opinion. you believe that there is an inherent unbalancing by following the system that is laid out for all casters. i do not. the spells that a cleric 10/wizard 10 would be casting are no more powerful than those of a cleric 20 or wizard 20. to think otherwise is fallacy. furthermore they have no more spell slots than any other full progression spellcaster. in fact, it is a very elegant and well thought out design for multiclassing. [/QUOTE]
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