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<blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9828665" data-attributes="member: 7043270"><p>Well the problems which are brought up with the ranger (in lots of discussions I did some googling today) are the following</p><p></p><p>1. The from level 6 to level 10 there is no damage increase at all. (ignoring spellslots)</p><p>2. Most classes have a big damage increase or another really strong feature on level 11, since thats another powerspike level like level 5 and the ranger in general lacks this since its subclass dependant and only 1 from the new subclasses really has that needed powerspike/damage increase.</p><p>3. In general the ranger does not scale much lategame also in the levels after 11. So his damage sinks compared to other classes, especially the capstone feature at level 20 is really really weak.</p><p>4. The ranger has 2 "main" class features. One being spellcasting the other hunters mark. And several other class features (level 13, 17, 20 + several subclass features) depend on hunters mark. On the same time many spells the hunter has also need concentration (like 40%+) and also many spells (and also some class features) do also need the bonus action. But even if they need an action (like summoning spell withour concentration), you cant do a spell and hunters mark in the same turn. So it feels bad that the 2 main features fight against each other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>These problems will come up rarely in statistics, since most campaigns dont go over level 7, and only a really small percentage ever go above level 11.</p><p></p><p>However, this is also a bit a spiral because people play high level less often because irs in general co sidered worse balanced etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course one does not need to use huntrrs mark. And the extra uses makes it hurt not so much when you lose its concenteation. And the level 13 and 17 features come st levels where you get new spell levels so its just a small bonus, but the subclass features and the capstone are still dependant on it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Also your data is from beginning of 2024. So has most likely looot of 5e not 5.24 dsta in it. This post was about the 5.24 ranger.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tigris, post: 9828665, member: 7043270"] Well the problems which are brought up with the ranger (in lots of discussions I did some googling today) are the following 1. The from level 6 to level 10 there is no damage increase at all. (ignoring spellslots) 2. Most classes have a big damage increase or another really strong feature on level 11, since thats another powerspike level like level 5 and the ranger in general lacks this since its subclass dependant and only 1 from the new subclasses really has that needed powerspike/damage increase. 3. In general the ranger does not scale much lategame also in the levels after 11. So his damage sinks compared to other classes, especially the capstone feature at level 20 is really really weak. 4. The ranger has 2 "main" class features. One being spellcasting the other hunters mark. And several other class features (level 13, 17, 20 + several subclass features) depend on hunters mark. On the same time many spells the hunter has also need concentration (like 40%+) and also many spells (and also some class features) do also need the bonus action. But even if they need an action (like summoning spell withour concentration), you cant do a spell and hunters mark in the same turn. So it feels bad that the 2 main features fight against each other. These problems will come up rarely in statistics, since most campaigns dont go over level 7, and only a really small percentage ever go above level 11. However, this is also a bit a spiral because people play high level less often because irs in general co sidered worse balanced etc. Of course one does not need to use huntrrs mark. And the extra uses makes it hurt not so much when you lose its concenteation. And the level 13 and 17 features come st levels where you get new spell levels so its just a small bonus, but the subclass features and the capstone are still dependant on it. EDIT: Also your data is from beginning of 2024. So has most likely looot of 5e not 5.24 dsta in it. This post was about the 5.24 ranger. [/QUOTE]
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