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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9828713" data-attributes="member: 7043270">Are they? If paladins could not cast regular spells they still have the smite class feature (yes it uses spell slots but the hunters mark class feature can also use spell slots but its not worth it).Also paladins still have an 1d8 damage increase on level 11. And also have their really really strong level 6 aura (and a good one level 10). And also get an extra daily use of channel divinity on level 11.Paladin also has a really fast mount as a class feature to summon which does grant a lot of mobility.This does not sound weak (and they still have subclasse features which are also strong).Summon Fey is mentioned as a level 11 subclass festure before. But its using limited ressources unlike other level 11 festures.But both of these are not 2024 subclasses. Did you use 2024 ranger else?  The drakewarden is also one of the strongest ranger subclasses.I am not saying ranger has a massive problem, but its really dependant on a good subclass. And I can see why people might want to get into another class at level 5 which grants more damage.This is exactly what I mean. They are half casters. So only a small part of their power should be in spells. Making their spells more powerfull than other same level spells just creates potential problems and again does the boring "only spells can be powerfull".</blockquote>