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<blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 7012723" data-attributes="member: 6802765"><p> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Fighter 1/Lore Bard 4. Take Inspiring Leader and healing/buff spells. You're one level behind a pure bard in spellcasting, but are a MUCH harder target with Heavy Armor, a shield, and Armor style. Pure fighters don't do the "suport tank" role well, so comparision here would be inapt. Better is to compare the multiclass to a Life Cleric 5: the multiclass is slightly better at debuffing and maintaining concentration at the cost of healing power and 1 level of spellcasting. Definitely comparable.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Why a paladin/sorcerer <em>wouldn't</em> take BB/GFB is beyond me, but even without them the combination of Divine Smite with Sorcerer spell slots in a Pal 2/Sor 3 is enough extra nova damage to compete with the stead(ier) dps of a Paladin 5, and with heavy armor is much more survivable than (and has slmost as many spell slots as) a Sorcerer 5. Either way the multiclass is comparable to one of the single classes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cleric 1/Aburation Wizard 4. MUCH harder to kill than either a pure Life Cleric or a pure Abjuration Wizard, a lot more 1st level spells known, and an identical number of spell slots all in exchange for being a level beind on maximum spell level. Definitely comparable to either pure class.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">VHuman BM Fighter 4/(Variant) Ranger 1: The nova potential of Ambuscade with Action Surge, Superiority Dice, and CE/SS is almost unmatched at this level. It easily holds its own against the Fighter 5 or a Ranger 5 (and starting at level 6 leaves most (not all) of the pure class builds in the dust.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Paladin 2/Bard 3: See the analysis for Paladin/Sorcerer above.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">This one is dependent on if your DM uses (and how they interpret) the errata for unarmed strikes. Fighter 1/Open-Hand Monk 4: Does 3 attacks at 2 more damage apiece (while Ki lasts) with lesser debuffs on furry as opposed to the Monk 5's 3 attacks with a chance to stun. Sure, stunning is better than a 30%ish damage boost, but at level 6 the multiclass gets stunning and extra attack too and still has the damage boost. Definately comparable. Also compares well to many (not all) Fighter 5 builds, trading some damage for increased control from open hand.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">BM Fighter 3/Moon Druid 2 is a much superior wild-shape combatant to a Moon Druid 5, having more nova potential and dealing more damage per hit on an identical number of attacks. (The difference will be lessened at level 6, but the multiclass still hold its own.) Makes up for its melee strength with cinsiderably fewer spells when out of wildshape, but the extra specialization is arguably a worthwile tradeoff. Also has just as many attacks as a Fighter 5, better mental stats, and vastly superior available HP, at the cost of lower hit bonuses and much lower AC. (To put either single class to shame, grab Sentinel and Commander's Strike and be ridden by a PC Mastermind Rogue with Mounted Combat.)<br /> </li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xetheral, post: 7012723, member: 6802765"] [List=1][*]Fighter 1/Lore Bard 4. Take Inspiring Leader and healing/buff spells. You're one level behind a pure bard in spellcasting, but are a MUCH harder target with Heavy Armor, a shield, and Armor style. Pure fighters don't do the "suport tank" role well, so comparision here would be inapt. Better is to compare the multiclass to a Life Cleric 5: the multiclass is slightly better at debuffing and maintaining concentration at the cost of healing power and 1 level of spellcasting. Definitely comparable.[*]Why a paladin/sorcerer [i]wouldn't[/i] take BB/GFB is beyond me, but even without them the combination of Divine Smite with Sorcerer spell slots in a Pal 2/Sor 3 is enough extra nova damage to compete with the stead(ier) dps of a Paladin 5, and with heavy armor is much more survivable than (and has slmost as many spell slots as) a Sorcerer 5. Either way the multiclass is comparable to one of the single classes. [*]Cleric 1/Aburation Wizard 4. MUCH harder to kill than either a pure Life Cleric or a pure Abjuration Wizard, a lot more 1st level spells known, and an identical number of spell slots all in exchange for being a level beind on maximum spell level. Definitely comparable to either pure class.[*]VHuman BM Fighter 4/(Variant) Ranger 1: The nova potential of Ambuscade with Action Surge, Superiority Dice, and CE/SS is almost unmatched at this level. It easily holds its own against the Fighter 5 or a Ranger 5 (and starting at level 6 leaves most (not all) of the pure class builds in the dust.[*]Paladin 2/Bard 3: See the analysis for Paladin/Sorcerer above.[*]This one is dependent on if your DM uses (and how they interpret) the errata for unarmed strikes. Fighter 1/Open-Hand Monk 4: Does 3 attacks at 2 more damage apiece (while Ki lasts) with lesser debuffs on furry as opposed to the Monk 5's 3 attacks with a chance to stun. Sure, stunning is better than a 30%ish damage boost, but at level 6 the multiclass gets stunning and extra attack too and still has the damage boost. Definately comparable. Also compares well to many (not all) Fighter 5 builds, trading some damage for increased control from open hand.[*]BM Fighter 3/Moon Druid 2 is a much superior wild-shape combatant to a Moon Druid 5, having more nova potential and dealing more damage per hit on an identical number of attacks. (The difference will be lessened at level 6, but the multiclass still hold its own.) Makes up for its melee strength with cinsiderably fewer spells when out of wildshape, but the extra specialization is arguably a worthwile tradeoff. Also has just as many attacks as a Fighter 5, better mental stats, and vastly superior available HP, at the cost of lower hit bonuses and much lower AC. (To put either single class to shame, grab Sentinel and Commander's Strike and be ridden by a PC Mastermind Rogue with Mounted Combat.) [/list] [/QUOTE]
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