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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6967860" data-attributes="member: 6787650">I don't think "Champion with no magical weapons against a creature which is vulnerable primarily to magic" makes a good baseline comparison for "utterly without merit". (That's why I excluded weapon resistance from the analysis originally.) You're saying that this character is just slightly better than an unimaginative Champion fighting nothing but normal-weapon-damage-resistant creatures, if he is happy to spend his daily resources to do it. That makes the analysis pretty niche, so niche that I'd say you're comparing vs. a fantasy PC who never really gets played in real life. It would be more reasonable (but more complicated) to assume a mix of gargoyles, allosaurs, giant crocodiles, etc., with maybe 1/3 of them having weapon resistance.I simply don't believe there are any DMs here who would ever run a solo campaign for a Champion featuring nothing but weapon-resistant enemies (demons, etc.) and yet the Champion still wouldn't have any kind of a magic weapon by 12th level. That scenario doesn't pass the sniff test.BTW the difference in our computed damage outputs is due to the fact that I included Dueling style and Hex, and you excluded them and included damage resistance. I understand why you excluded Hex (you'd rather have the Shields) but I don't understand why you excluded Dueling style, since you paid for it.Edit: BTW, you really shouldn't include sneak attack damage in a solo scenario.I implemented a Monte Carlo sim of Pathological vs the Gargoyles, and he typically kills about 5-6 gargoyles on average before dying using the strategy you outlined. (Shield only on first hit, when no temp HP.) Here's a link: <a href="https://repl.it/EnF3/0" target="_blank">https://repl.it/EnF3/0</a> Just hit the Run button to see ten combats. Pathological has a +0 magic weapon here. I'm giving him the sneak attack damage here even though I really shouldn't.The unoptimized Champion's Monte Carlo sim is here: <a href="https://repl.it/EnFq/1" target="_blank">https://repl.it/EnFq/1</a>. Tends to average about 7-8 kills, or 14 with a +0 magic weapon.</blockquote>

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