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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6085716" data-attributes="member: 6678119">1: Yes.  A character with 20 wizard levels is still a character with 20 wizard levels, regardless of when it takes them, with regards to spellcasting and most everything but BAB and saves.2: Yes.  The character would, strictly speaking, have a BAB of 10 since the rules say "...the character’s base attack bonus does not increase after character level reaches 20th."  Likewise, the paragraph <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/basics.htm#addingaSecondClass" target="_blank">here</a> says that adding a separate class would not grant its BAB or save progression since those are subsumed by an Epic character progression.  However, this is inconsistent with monsters such as, say, the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/hoaryHunter.htm" target="_blank">Hoary Hunter</a> which is a fey, and as a fey it would normally get 1/2 its HD as BAB.  Since it clearly has 4 attacks on a full attack, it also clearly has at least BAB +16.  In fact, the entry for Base Attack says it's +23 which lines up with its 46 fey HD.If one looks at a monster with racial HD and class levels, one can find the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/giant.htm#frostGiant" target="_blank">Frost Giant Jarl</a> which has 14 giant levels and 8 blackguard levels, for total HD of 22.  Despite hitting 20 HD though, its Blackguard levels still granted it 2 BAB.  Supposedly 3.X was meant to keep things internally consistent and have pretty much the same rules for monsters as for player characters, but that obviously breaks down here.In short, the Epic rules aren't consistent with actual printed material and this could lead to a DM deciding it's BS for a character to not at least get its best BAB up to +20.  I am one of those who, if I were to DM, would call BS on it and let the character get its full BAB up to +20.a: Assuming one still sticks to the rule that a character does not get BAB beyond level 20 even if it has classes that would get it to that point, then it's possible that the character would be better off taking the first 20 levels as fighter for the extra BAB and attacks.b: Besides caster level, the wizard would lose a better familiar (as per <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/classProgressions.htm#epicWizard" target="_blank">Epic Wizard</a>) as well as the extra feats granted by being an epic wizard.</blockquote>

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