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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 6269663" data-attributes="member: 23484">I'm finding this a tough conversation to follow:&nbsp; what ability are you looking at that improves a character's ability to assassinate sleeping victims? I'm just not seeing it. The &quot;assassinate&quot; ability (rogue 3) would seem to be the obvious choice, but it's about attacking surprised opponents in combat. And it's a static bonus under specific combat circumstances that does not improve. Are you talking about &quot;assassinate&quot; plus an increase in sneak attack? Obviously, even if a character foregoes assassination, a rogue would still gain that bonus. Rogue is a great class for lawful good characters, and the flexibility in rogue design (particularly in earlier iterations of the play test) really represent its versatility.For the character choosing the assassination path, there is nothing specific to killing people in their sleep. Can someone clarify please?I would argue that the best class as an actual assassin (killing sleeping victims, the terms defined here) is the druid, but that's another discussion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 6269663, member: 23484"] I'm finding this a tough conversation to follow: what ability are you looking at that improves a character's ability to assassinate sleeping victims? I'm just not seeing it. The "assassinate" ability (rogue 3) would seem to be the obvious choice, but it's about attacking surprised opponents in combat. And it's a static bonus under specific combat circumstances that does not improve. Are you talking about "assassinate" plus an increase in sneak attack? Obviously, even if a character foregoes assassination, a rogue would still gain that bonus. Rogue is a great class for lawful good characters, and the flexibility in rogue design (particularly in earlier iterations of the play test) really represent its versatility. For the character choosing the assassination path, there is nothing specific to killing people in their sleep. Can someone clarify please? I would argue that the best class as an actual assassin (killing sleeping victims, the terms defined here) is the druid, but that's another discussion. [/QUOTE]

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