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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 5628229" data-attributes="member: 413">The Essential's Ranger is a controller. Tonight he immobilized a foe (save ends) in the first round of combat...the mage dropped a zone power on it that did fire damage and it never saved to move out of the zone and burned to death...my son was very amused...We leveled up tonight to level 3 so he retrained and dropped a feat that gave him +2 Nature, Perception and Init in exchange for Sneak of the Shadows...giving the party someone trained in Thievery and at least one attack of &quot;striker&quot; level damage (1d10+2d6+5) per encounter...The knight is a defender with a little bit of damage dealing capabilities.&nbsp; He dropped toughness (5 hp) for Warlord...so he has a little less hp in exchange for one heal per day that will do X+1d6 that he can share with party members...seems a fair trade...in a recent fight the mage was dropped to 0 hp and no one could heal him to get him back in the fight...so this will add that capability.We'll give it a try to see how it goes...neither character has any attack powers to swap because of the way essentials characters work but they do have some utils...and the Paragon Paths may make some interesting characters....oh...and I AM playing a DM run character...It is just me and my son in this game.&nbsp; It's just for him to learn to play (and eventually DM).&nbsp; The other group is playing PHB 1 and 2 characters that are multiclassed...they may have more opportunities to swap powers.I do agree...so far the MC rules seem timid.&nbsp;&nbsp; But since I'm still fairly new to 4e I'd like to stick to the rules as written as much as possible to see how they work...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uller, post: 5628229, member: 413"] The Essential's Ranger is a controller. Tonight he immobilized a foe (save ends) in the first round of combat...the mage dropped a zone power on it that did fire damage and it never saved to move out of the zone and burned to death...my son was very amused... We leveled up tonight to level 3 so he retrained and dropped a feat that gave him +2 Nature, Perception and Init in exchange for Sneak of the Shadows...giving the party someone trained in Thievery and at least one attack of "striker" level damage (1d10+2d6+5) per encounter... The knight is a defender with a little bit of damage dealing capabilities. He dropped toughness (5 hp) for Warlord...so he has a little less hp in exchange for one heal per day that will do X+1d6 that he can share with party members...seems a fair trade...in a recent fight the mage was dropped to 0 hp and no one could heal him to get him back in the fight...so this will add that capability. We'll give it a try to see how it goes...neither character has any attack powers to swap because of the way essentials characters work but they do have some utils...and the Paragon Paths may make some interesting characters. ...oh...and I AM playing a DM run character...It is just me and my son in this game. It's just for him to learn to play (and eventually DM). The other group is playing PHB 1 and 2 characters that are multiclassed...they may have more opportunities to swap powers. I do agree...so far the MC rules seem timid. But since I'm still fairly new to 4e I'd like to stick to the rules as written as much as possible to see how they work... [/QUOTE]

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