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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zookeeper" data-source="post: 4318387" data-attributes="member: 70600">That is not 100% correct, according to paragon multiclassing section if you have the power swap feats and do not take the paragon path you gain a power (which is at 11th level paragon) of 7th level or lower (effectivly losing 4 levels) in place of your paragon path power, which because it is a paragon path power can not be swapped out or retrained. Effectively you have 1 scalable power through retraining and 1 7th level (or lower) power from your second class, which when you reach higher levels is largely ineffective compared to the paragon path powers.  Sure mathmatically you do have 2 powers from each class.  This is just for first (11th level power), you lose 2 levels for the 12th level power and 1 level for the 20th level power for a total of 7 lost levels of power.As above, you still get powers in place of the paragon path powers, these (I believe) are considered your paragon powers and as such can not be swapped out or retrained.  You still gain them when your supposed to get the paragon path powers (11th, 12th, and 20th respectively).That might be good, but I do not think that these multiclass rules are worth giving up 4 feats and a paragon path only to get a trained skill, a watered down class ability, 3 scaleable powers, and if you paragon multiclass 3 static powers.  Especially when you don't even get the class features that made the classes desireable to play like the cleric's channel divinity to turn undead, or the rogue's sneak attack ability (yes I know you get to use it once per encounter), but the ability to deal this sneak attack damage whenever you have an advantage is what made it fun.  Trying to sneak around and get that advantage for each hit was an adventure in itself.A fighter/rogue with the ability to flank an opponent and deal extra sneak attack damage was fun.  The monk/rogue was interesting when they delivered the quivering palm feature of the monk through the rogues backstab feat.  And the fighter/wizard that could deliver a shocking grasp spell through a sword was (actually turned into a new class)  great just the same.I'm not in any way saying that the 3.x system was better, in fact it gave you too many abilities. (Armor and weapon profs, skills, etc.)  The main thing I'm saying is that the class features were the interesting parts.  Now they have made some (or most) of those features powers or features you don't get.  Sorry for the ranting <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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