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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4079003" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Amen to that. I wish they'd just hold an IM chat session and post the transcript instead. I'd even volunteer to clean up the text for them.</p><p></p><p>The reason I think 4E multiclass = class training feats is that it would be excessively clunky to have two different systems for combining classes. We know there are class training feats, so it stands to reason that the new multiclassing system is built off of those in some fashion; especially given that they say the new system works well for "splashing," not so well for "deep" multiclassing.</p><p></p><p>When you get right down to it, I don't think it's really that different from 3E. Yeah, you <em>could</em> go "deep" in 3E, but like Noonan said, that was usually a bogus option. Most of the effective choices for multiclassing involved splashing--or, to use the common 3E term, "dipping." The only way to do "deep" multiclassing and make it sorta work was to take one of the prestige classes like Eldritch Knight or Mystic Theurge, and even then it was usually weaksauce compared to sticking with one class the whole way.</p><p></p><p>(Of course, part of that was because spells in 3E were so ungodly powerful that virtually nothing could justify giving up access to a higher level of spellcasting.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4079003, member: 58197"] Amen to that. I wish they'd just hold an IM chat session and post the transcript instead. I'd even volunteer to clean up the text for them. The reason I think 4E multiclass = class training feats is that it would be excessively clunky to have two different systems for combining classes. We know there are class training feats, so it stands to reason that the new multiclassing system is built off of those in some fashion; especially given that they say the new system works well for "splashing," not so well for "deep" multiclassing. When you get right down to it, I don't think it's really that different from 3E. Yeah, you [i]could[/i] go "deep" in 3E, but like Noonan said, that was usually a bogus option. Most of the effective choices for multiclassing involved splashing--or, to use the common 3E term, "dipping." The only way to do "deep" multiclassing and make it sorta work was to take one of the prestige classes like Eldritch Knight or Mystic Theurge, and even then it was usually weaksauce compared to sticking with one class the whole way. (Of course, part of that was because spells in 3E were so ungodly powerful that virtually nothing could justify giving up access to a higher level of spellcasting.) [/QUOTE]
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