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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9461110" data-attributes="member: 7037866">YMMV but being that prepared for a fight or even having a plan that worked out that smoothly was rare IME.Also, in 1E, spells were harder to get off (and weird how initiative with spells worked), but even in 2E speed factors were not often that much greater than casting times, specially for minions and mooks who tended to use smaller, faster weapons and would gang-up on any spell caster who started waving their arms lol!Regardless, I just find the LFQW argument a bit facetious (?) in that did a Wizard getting off a well-placed lightning bolt for your party really make your Fighter or Rogue feel like important, effective, or fun to play??? Because that was never my experience nor anyone I can recall ever playing with. It wasn't until 5E and on this forum I ever even heard of the expression LFQW.&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9461110, member: 7037866"] YMMV but being [I]that[/I] prepared for a fight or even having a plan that worked out that smoothly was rare IME. Also, in 1E, spells were harder to get off (and weird how initiative with spells worked), but even in 2E speed factors were not often that much greater than casting times, specially for minions and mooks who tended to use smaller, faster weapons and would gang-up on any spell caster who started waving their arms lol! Regardless, I just find the LFQW argument a bit facetious (?) in that did a Wizard getting off a well-placed lightning bolt for your party [I]really[/I] make your Fighter or Rogue feel like important, effective, or fun to play??? Because that was never my experience nor anyone I can recall ever playing with. It wasn't until 5E and on this forum I ever even heard of the expression LFQW. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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