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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 6606623" data-attributes="member: 20564">There are a lot of cases where a 1 level dip can be powerful.&nbsp; 3.x has shown this, and while it's not as true in 5e it's not all gone.&nbsp; For example, consider many pure casters taking a level of cleric.&nbsp; It slows spells known by a level but not spell progression (and with being able to uplift spells that's noticeable but not so bad), but can grant them armor proficiencies, weapon proficiencies and a special ability.&nbsp; If you want to play a heavy armored wizard it's &quot;cheaper&quot; to do that then to spend two feats.&nbsp; Plus you get a bunch of extra cantrips like guidance, some extra spells known including healing word.&nbsp; I've got a lore bard with a level of life cleric for heavy armor prof and a bonus to all my healing.Or perhaps a fighter archer who with one level to cleric (or two of paladin) can pick up bless to add to the +2 Archery fighting style and reliably take advantage of the -5/+10 from the Sharpshooter feat.&nbsp; No other concentration spells compete.Paladin taking wizard for Shield and full progression to better feed his smites.Or flip it around, with a PC taking fighter 2 for action surge to take two actions for a nova.&nbsp; Or a caster starting with a class that gets Con as a proficient save because that's cheaper than spending a feat.Lots of places where you can get extra power from multiclassing.&nbsp; Requiring a 13 costs 5 of the 27 starting points of point buy.&nbsp; Say 3 points over a neutral 10.&nbsp; It's a commitment, especially if you want to cherry pick from a bunch of places.Can it improve?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; Off the top of my head I would want to allow the Dex paladin.&nbsp; But ti does serve a purpose.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 6606623, member: 20564"] There are a lot of cases where a 1 level dip can be powerful. 3.x has shown this, and while it's not as true in 5e it's not all gone. For example, consider many pure casters taking a level of cleric. It slows spells known by a level but not spell progression (and with being able to uplift spells that's noticeable but not so bad), but can grant them armor proficiencies, weapon proficiencies and a special ability. If you want to play a heavy armored wizard it's "cheaper" to do that then to spend two feats. Plus you get a bunch of extra cantrips like guidance, some extra spells known including healing word. I've got a lore bard with a level of life cleric for heavy armor prof and a bonus to all my healing. Or perhaps a fighter archer who with one level to cleric (or two of paladin) can pick up bless to add to the +2 Archery fighting style and reliably take advantage of the -5/+10 from the Sharpshooter feat. No other concentration spells compete. Paladin taking wizard for Shield and full progression to better feed his smites. Or flip it around, with a PC taking fighter 2 for action surge to take two actions for a nova. Or a caster starting with a class that gets Con as a proficient save because that's cheaper than spending a feat. Lots of places where you can get extra power from multiclassing. Requiring a 13 costs 5 of the 27 starting points of point buy. Say 3 points over a neutral 10. It's a commitment, especially if you want to cherry pick from a bunch of places. Can it improve? Sure. Off the top of my head I would want to allow the Dex paladin. But ti does serve a purpose. [/QUOTE]

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