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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 2616586" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>This I can't help but STRONGLY disagree with.</p><p></p><p>You don't need "training" to become a barbarian. </p><p></p><p>You don't need "training" to become a rogue. Does a street urchin who learns to pick peoples pockets and stab people when they aren't looking have to be taught the intricacies of life on the streets by a formalized Guild with rules and membership dues, or an apprenticeship with another thief to show how you actually hide? Picking up your fathers sword as a child and putting on that old suit of armor and going off to war when the local Lord raises an army? You learn in battle how to survive and at the end of a battle or two you've got the hang of it, but you can't become a "Fighter" until another fighter gives you "training" in using a weapon and wearing armor? Does someone who is marooned on an island away from civilization, who learns to hunt and survive on his own, becoming a half-feral warrior who wrestles a bear stuck being whatever class he was before, because he can't become a "Barbarian" without someone teaching him how to get angry? Some peasant has a divine calling from on high, he finds that his God has given him a tiny measure of Enlightenment and he can channel divine might through him or pray for spells in his name, but he can't become a Cleric or Paladin because he hasn't been trained by an Order or another Cleric or Paladin, no matter what his God says.</p><p></p><p>Some base classes (Wizard and Monk most notably) probably need some kind of explanation as to how PC's got those skills, which is almost certainly a fair amount of instruction and practice. Many Prestige Classes involve a certain amount of training needed for them, but there are plenty of classes that is perfectly plausible that a character could figure out those skills on their own over time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 2616586, member: 14159"] This I can't help but STRONGLY disagree with. You don't need "training" to become a barbarian. You don't need "training" to become a rogue. Does a street urchin who learns to pick peoples pockets and stab people when they aren't looking have to be taught the intricacies of life on the streets by a formalized Guild with rules and membership dues, or an apprenticeship with another thief to show how you actually hide? Picking up your fathers sword as a child and putting on that old suit of armor and going off to war when the local Lord raises an army? You learn in battle how to survive and at the end of a battle or two you've got the hang of it, but you can't become a "Fighter" until another fighter gives you "training" in using a weapon and wearing armor? Does someone who is marooned on an island away from civilization, who learns to hunt and survive on his own, becoming a half-feral warrior who wrestles a bear stuck being whatever class he was before, because he can't become a "Barbarian" without someone teaching him how to get angry? Some peasant has a divine calling from on high, he finds that his God has given him a tiny measure of Enlightenment and he can channel divine might through him or pray for spells in his name, but he can't become a Cleric or Paladin because he hasn't been trained by an Order or another Cleric or Paladin, no matter what his God says. Some base classes (Wizard and Monk most notably) probably need some kind of explanation as to how PC's got those skills, which is almost certainly a fair amount of instruction and practice. Many Prestige Classes involve a certain amount of training needed for them, but there are plenty of classes that is perfectly plausible that a character could figure out those skills on their own over time. [/QUOTE]
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