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<blockquote data-quote="Bladesinger_Boy" data-source="post: 5068036" data-attributes="member: 87403"><p><strong>Cross Training</strong></p><p></p><p>I do love fractional BAB & saves, so good call their. I guess your design is a bit of hybrid of pre-set, non-class depdendent save progression while also retaining class-based BAB. I think that's a good call because BAB and spells seem to be the basic trade-off of class choice in 3.x D&D. Good stuff.</p><p></p><p>In my system, I think I will use your pre-set save progression of 1/2 (like 4E), but I will give each class one of the the four save feats (+2 fort, +2 ref, +2 will, or +1 to all three) to give a bit more flavo and variability. Also, allowing, for example to have a +12 rather than a +10 base bonus at level 20 is more in-line with the current scale of things and I don't really want to gimp high saves so much. I'm inclined to stay this should only happen at first level and not be overpowered with multiclassing. I mean, I thought this was also a bit of a fix to saves of ridiculously multiclassed characters.</p><p></p><p>So, maybe the feat looks something like this:</p><p>CROSS TRAINING [General]</p><p> You are well trained in two paths despite your broad interests.</p><p>BENEFIT: The character’s class features are treated as being of a higher level in two selected base classes. Both classes gain a class feature level bonus equal to half the other class’s level up to a max of double its level. This feat does NOT grant additional class features; it allows abilities and class features based off of level to continue to progress (ex: Rogue's Uncanny Dodge, Wizard's Familar advancement, Cleric's domain power & turning, Fighter's feat access, Druid or Ranger's Animal Companion, etc).</p><p> Example: a fighter 4/wizard 4 character would have the class features of a fighter 6/wizard 6 but in all other ways it is considered an 8th level character (f4/w4). This feat may be taken multiple times, selecting other classes to gain the bonus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bladesinger_Boy, post: 5068036, member: 87403"] [b]Cross Training[/b] I do love fractional BAB & saves, so good call their. I guess your design is a bit of hybrid of pre-set, non-class depdendent save progression while also retaining class-based BAB. I think that's a good call because BAB and spells seem to be the basic trade-off of class choice in 3.x D&D. Good stuff. In my system, I think I will use your pre-set save progression of 1/2 (like 4E), but I will give each class one of the the four save feats (+2 fort, +2 ref, +2 will, or +1 to all three) to give a bit more flavo and variability. Also, allowing, for example to have a +12 rather than a +10 base bonus at level 20 is more in-line with the current scale of things and I don't really want to gimp high saves so much. I'm inclined to stay this should only happen at first level and not be overpowered with multiclassing. I mean, I thought this was also a bit of a fix to saves of ridiculously multiclassed characters. So, maybe the feat looks something like this: CROSS TRAINING [General] You are well trained in two paths despite your broad interests. BENEFIT: The character’s class features are treated as being of a higher level in two selected base classes. Both classes gain a class feature level bonus equal to half the other class’s level up to a max of double its level. This feat does NOT grant additional class features; it allows abilities and class features based off of level to continue to progress (ex: Rogue's Uncanny Dodge, Wizard's Familar advancement, Cleric's domain power & turning, Fighter's feat access, Druid or Ranger's Animal Companion, etc). Example: a fighter 4/wizard 4 character would have the class features of a fighter 6/wizard 6 but in all other ways it is considered an 8th level character (f4/w4). This feat may be taken multiple times, selecting other classes to gain the bonus. [/QUOTE]
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