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<blockquote data-quote="Scharlata" data-source="post: 2142227" data-attributes="member: 4806"><p>Hi!</p><p></p><p></p><p>As I would read the template, your multiheaded behir gets super-sized because the 8 additional HD (+2 per head) indicate the size change as per the Advancement entry in the MM. And, yes, I think that the now Gargantuan behir gets all of the benefits of increasing HD as indicated in the corresponding entries in the SS (Attacks: "The base attack bonus increase....", "Skills: "The creature gains additional skill points...", and Feats: "The creature also gains additional feats..."). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO, no, because the MM states that a) the base creature (behir) is a Huge creature [p. 25] and b) that only a size increase to Large or larger increases the CR to +1 [p. 294, Table 4-4]. The CR would be increased according to the SS's table "Challenge Rating" [p. 125]: CR +3 and an extra +4 [indicated according to the footnote 1] for heaving 4 extra heads with a breath weapon, for a total of +7. You may consider an additional CR increase of +1 or +2 [according to MM, p. 294, Table 4-4] for having 4 extra heads that can swallow whole creatures, which improves the combat ability in a minor/major way. That would make a grant total of +8 or +9, at your discretion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A <span style="color: DarkOrange">follow-up question</span> arose IMHO: Is it <strong>possible </strong>to give a behir 11 additional heads? At first, I thought, yes, according to the SS: <em>Limit on Additional Heads</em> (11 additional heads for a Huge base creature). 11 additional heads would give the base creature 22 additional HD. So you'd have a 9 + 22 = 31 HD monster. According to the MM's Advancement entry, a behir can't have more than 27 HD. What would you rule? What has priority? The Advancement entry in the MM [3.5] or the Limit on Additional Heads entry in the SS [3.0/3.5]?</p><p></p><p>Kind regards</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scharlata, post: 2142227, member: 4806"] Hi! As I would read the template, your multiheaded behir gets super-sized because the 8 additional HD (+2 per head) indicate the size change as per the Advancement entry in the MM. And, yes, I think that the now Gargantuan behir gets all of the benefits of increasing HD as indicated in the corresponding entries in the SS (Attacks: "The base attack bonus increase....", "Skills: "The creature gains additional skill points...", and Feats: "The creature also gains additional feats..."). IMO, no, because the MM states that a) the base creature (behir) is a Huge creature [p. 25] and b) that only a size increase to Large or larger increases the CR to +1 [p. 294, Table 4-4]. The CR would be increased according to the SS's table "Challenge Rating" [p. 125]: CR +3 and an extra +4 [indicated according to the footnote 1] for heaving 4 extra heads with a breath weapon, for a total of +7. You may consider an additional CR increase of +1 or +2 [according to MM, p. 294, Table 4-4] for having 4 extra heads that can swallow whole creatures, which improves the combat ability in a minor/major way. That would make a grant total of +8 or +9, at your discretion. A [COLOR=DarkOrange]follow-up question[/COLOR] arose IMHO: Is it [B]possible [/B]to give a behir 11 additional heads? At first, I thought, yes, according to the SS: [I]Limit on Additional Heads[/I] (11 additional heads for a Huge base creature). 11 additional heads would give the base creature 22 additional HD. So you'd have a 9 + 22 = 31 HD monster. According to the MM's Advancement entry, a behir can't have more than 27 HD. What would you rule? What has priority? The Advancement entry in the MM [3.5] or the Limit on Additional Heads entry in the SS [3.0/3.5]? Kind regards [/QUOTE]
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