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<blockquote data-quote="JustaPlayer" data-source="post: 2630186" data-attributes="member: 17202">Full plate will get you to 20 right off the block.&nbsp; All you would need is the +1 for Dex.I would still need two of the ability scores to be very high for the monk to even come close.&nbsp; Yes, as the monk advances he get's up to a +4 added in by the time he gets to 20th level, which means that with 2 16s he will be at 20 without other magical equipment(which other characters will undoubtably have as well)&nbsp; There is no way that the Monk can keep up in that area.&nbsp; Sure, you are going to be able to do great damage when you do hit, but it doesn't compensate for the statistical disadvantage in hitting.&nbsp; And I'm only talking about two good scores.&nbsp; Now I can go the other way and put one good ability in str but then my AC goes down more and I still have my arse handed to me.As far as Barbarians getting in the 20s.&nbsp; I don't do it when playing the class, but as far as I know the is nothing restricting them from wearing heavy armor.If Monks aren't suppose to be on the front lines what are they really good at?&nbsp; You can't sneek up on them and they get to evade spells and other things like that, but when it come for usefulness, there just isn't much if it isn't suppose to be fighting.&nbsp; No skills like a thief or bard, no spells like other classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JustaPlayer, post: 2630186, member: 17202"] Full plate will get you to 20 right off the block. All you would need is the +1 for Dex. I would still need two of the ability scores to be very high for the monk to even come close. Yes, as the monk advances he get's up to a +4 added in by the time he gets to 20th level, which means that with 2 16s he will be at 20 without other magical equipment(which other characters will undoubtably have as well) There is no way that the Monk can keep up in that area. Sure, you are going to be able to do great damage when you do hit, but it doesn't compensate for the statistical disadvantage in hitting. And I'm only talking about two good scores. Now I can go the other way and put one good ability in str but then my AC goes down more and I still have my arse handed to me. As far as Barbarians getting in the 20s. I don't do it when playing the class, but as far as I know the is nothing restricting them from wearing heavy armor. If Monks aren't suppose to be on the front lines what are they really good at? You can't sneek up on them and they get to evade spells and other things like that, but when it come for usefulness, there just isn't much if it isn't suppose to be fighting. No skills like a thief or bard, no spells like other classes. [/QUOTE]

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