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<blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 9156559" data-attributes="member: 7040941">Fun fact, it doesn't actually matter how the AI works. That is a complete non-sequitur and a frankly repetitive argument thats always trotted out in these discussions. If a given image-based AI cannot do what it does without consuming the art of human beings, and in turn if said art is taken and used (nevermind sold) for this purpose without permission and compensation, then there is a huge problem. It literally does not matter how the AI works. At all. That was never the issue. AI didn't become controversial because people are just being luddites or some other nonsense. It became controversial because contemptuous people abused the open nature of the internet to fuel their AIs and started profiting off the work of countless artists all over the world. And now even as many of these AIs are being stripped of this problem, there are still a large gaggle of incredibly smug techbros going to bat against any criticism of AI just on principle, and their rallying cry is always about how nobody &quot;gets&quot; how these AIs work. Most people don't know the inner workings of a lot of terrible things. Doesn't make them wrong when they recognize they are, in fact, terrible. Fact of the matter is, nobody cares how these things work because it doesn't actually matter to anybody except the people making them and their sycophants that throw appeals to authority around like a baseball.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emberashh, post: 9156559, member: 7040941"] Fun fact, it doesn't actually matter how the AI works. That is a complete non-sequitur and a frankly repetitive argument thats always trotted out in these discussions. If a given image-based AI cannot do what it does without consuming the art of human beings, and in turn if said art is taken and used (nevermind sold) for this purpose without permission and compensation, then there is a huge problem. It literally does not matter how the AI works. At all. That was never the issue. AI didn't become controversial because people are just being luddites or some other nonsense. It became controversial because contemptuous people abused the open nature of the internet to fuel their AIs and started profiting off the work of countless artists all over the world. And now even as many of these AIs are being stripped of this problem, there are [I]still[/I] a large gaggle of incredibly smug techbros going to bat against any criticism of AI just on principle, and their rallying cry is [I]always[/I] about how nobody "gets" how these AIs work. Most people don't know the inner workings of a lot of terrible things. Doesn't make them wrong when they recognize they are, in fact, terrible. Fact of the matter is, nobody cares how these things work because it doesn't actually matter to anybody except the people making them and their sycophants that throw appeals to authority around like a baseball. [/QUOTE]

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