Multiple Attacks for Monsters?

[Ogrork the Mighty]

I'm looking at a stat block for a 3E, three-headed hound monster. For full attack, it has bite +15/+10 (x3) and claws +12/+7 (x2). For clarity, that means 3 bites at +15/+10 each and 2 claws at +12/+7 each. The creature type is outsider and it has 12 HD.

Is this possible under the RAW? Can a creature gain multiple bite attacks and multiple claw attacks due to high BAB?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Natural Weapons: Natural weapons are weapons that are physically a part of a creature. A creature making a melee attack with a natural weapon is considered armed and does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Likewise, it threatens any space it can reach. Creatures do not receive additional attacks from a high base attack bonus when using natural weapons. The number of attacks a creature can make with its natural weapons depends on the type of the attack—generally, a creature can make one bite attack, one attack per claw or tentacle, one gore attack, one sting attack, or one slam attack (although Large creatures with arms or arm-like limbs can make a slam attack with each arm).

-Hyp.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Oh... that's the 3.5 rule. It's not explicitly spelled out the same way in 3E, but all the examples in 3E do it that way.

-Hyp.

 

[Saeviomagy]

I think there was a feat that allowed subsequent attacks with multiple weapons somewhere (savage species maybe?), but unless the monster has that, I'd scrap the secondary attacks

 

[Bryan898]

There's a feat in the Draconomicom called Rapidstrike that allows monsters to gain one additional attack with an attack type that it has two of. I don't know how it works in response to three attacks though, such as this creatures bite.

 

[glass]

There's a feat in the Draconomicom called Rapidstrike that allows monsters to gain one additional attack with an attack type that it has two of. I don't know how it works in response to three attacks though, such as this creatures bite.

The creature would have to have rapidstrike twice: once for claws and once for bites.

However, IMHO it's more likely just a mistake.


glass.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Oh... that's the 3.5 rule. It's not explicitly spelled out the same way in 3E, but all the examples in 3E do it that way.

-Hyp.

Certainly not all of them: take shield guardian iterative slams as an example.

 

[Keith]

Well sure, in general creatures bite once, but that is because they have the one mouth...I think the full intention of the rules is really one attack per round per arm, tentacle, head, etc.
The best model for this creature is I think the Hydra, of which the SRD says:
Hydras can attack with all their heads at no penalty, even if they move or charge during the round.

There is the additional bonus that the Hydra comes from the same mythology as the best known three-headed dog...
I don’t know what the stats are for a version 3.0 Hydra, but the same principle must have been observed- what would be sadder than a multi-headed creature that did not bite with all of them?! So I suggest using that as a starting point for stats ,CR, etc.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Certainly not all of them: take shield guardian iterative slams as an example.

A shield guardian does not get iterative slam attacks.

Attack: Slam +16 melee (1d8+6)
Full Attack: 2 slams +16 melee (1d8+6)

If they were iterative attacks, it would written "Slam +16 / +11 melee (1d8+6)".

 

[Hypersmurf]

A shield guardian does not get iterative slam attacks.

No, he's right - in 3E, it was Slam melee +16/+11/+6.

Elementals got iterative Slams as well.

Slams seem to be treated as an exception in 3E - more like 'armed' unarmed strikes than natural attacks, or something

-Hyp.