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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4563703" data-attributes="member: 1656">Right, but Bravura Presence is based on any attack made as the result of an action point.Bravura Presence: When an ally who can see you spends an action point to take an extra action and uses the action to make an attack, the ally can choose to take advantage of this feature before the attack roll. If the ally chooses to do so and the attack hits, the ally can either make a basic attack or take a move action after the attack as a free action. If the attack misses, the ally grants combat advantage to all enemies until the end of his or her next turn.The ally who can see you spends an action point to take an extra action and uses the action to use Twin Strike.  The ally can choose to take advantage of Bravura Presence before "the attack roll".  If "the attack" hits, he gets a basic attack or a free action.  If "the attack" misses, he grants combat advantage.Now, given that it refers to "the attack roll", that suggests to me that Bravura Presence operates on a single attack roll, not on the entirety of a power.  So Twin Strike is an action that you use to make two attacks.It looks like you could, conceivably, choose to take advantage of Bravura Presence before each attack you make as the result of an action point... so the ranger could potentially gain two basic attacks if both his Twin Strike attacks hit.Area and Close powers run into the Reliable problem - we know that "A ranged attack against multiple enemies consists of separate attacks, each with its own attack roll and damage roll" and "A melee attack against multiple enemies consists of separate attacks, each with its own attack roll and damage roll", so a ranged attack or melee attack can never include an attack that both hits and misses, since each attack is resolved separately.  Area and Close powers, however, are a single attack with multiple attack rolls, so a single Area power can be an attack that both hits and misses.Bravura Presence's reference to 'the attack roll' could still suggest that an Area power is evaluated one attack roll at a time for purposes of the class feature, but it's iffier.(All of this is assuming that the wording of Bravura Presence in Martial Power is still substantially the same as in the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20081103a" target="_blank">excerpt</a>.)-Hyp.</blockquote>

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