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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1560362" data-attributes="member: 1656">Oh, no, absolutely not - notice that I specifically said "incurring TWF penalties" with the longsword.If you want to get the extra attack with the off-hand, you need to take the TWF penalties on your primary attacks, even if you don't happen to be holding the off-hand weapon at the time.So it would be longsword at -4, longsword at -9, longsword at -14, longsword at -19, quickdraw axe, axe at -4.After all, I can throw weapons with both hands, taking TWF penalties, which requires drawing them between attacks.  Where's the difference?Right - that's pretty much how I do it.  And 'using' it, to me, includes threatening an area.So if you want to threaten an area with your off-hand weapon for the rest of the initiative cycle, you take TWF penalties with your main weapon... even if you don't actually swing the off-hand weapon.This is still true in 3.5.  See the PHB Glossary under 'off-hand attack' - any attack made with your weaker hand (normally the left) incurs a -4 penalty.  Not just when you're attacking with two weapons.-Hyp.</blockquote>