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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 5945831" data-attributes="member: 1861">First, getting 3 9th level casters of opposing spheres of influence together is an interesting proposition... And worth looking into just for sheer cheek.  However, reducing costs for production and time required would seem to not make sense personally, and I'll explain why.To me, personally, magic items take the time they take to make as both a balance and a flavor issue.  Frankenstein's Monster had to have its constituent parts traced, and  Judah Loew ben Bezalel's own golem of Prague was built and actually 'grew' into its size over time.  Similar legends of the golem of Gaon R. Eliyahu Ba’al Shem have the clay golem growing over time to the point that it could have grown to eat the Earth itself.  So, in our own scant lore on man-made men there is a case for a maturation or need to seek very specific materials.Alexander Irvine makes a case for golem mass-manufacture in his novel [ame="http://www.amazon.com/The-Narrows-Alexander-C-Irvine/dp/0345466985"]The Narrows[/ame], but even there the rabbis could not just rush production due to stringent requirements of faith in materials (metal within the unfinished Golem could make the creature into a  killing machine without any care for who it killed) and the time to say prayers and weave spells into the clay.There is also a certain amount to be said of manufacture of talismans and other blessed relics in various faiths and mystic traditions.  Even when mass-manufactured the items must be blessed or have incantations spoken over them, with some specific items requiring aging of the components to take full effect.  Think of it as mystic viniculture if you must; no golem is sent out before its time <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.Eberron created the Cannith Forge for Warforged production, which serves to stamp out the materials and life needed to created a mechanical man.  If you believe that the mystic sigils and energy can be CNC'd into your materials you could have a point.  However, the questions to answer are whether the XP being applied is representing a raw 'dump' of power into the Golem or magic item, or whether it is akin to scribing a scroll?Personally?  I see the magic of the golem being in its trapping of the elemental spirit that drives the beast.  So the real work is creating a system that allows for the elemental to be properly contained within the framework of the golem.  Lots of complex inscribing, laying down of specific mantras and magic circles in the appropriate shapes to make the containment work.  And then because of the nature of flesh and clay Golems made up of the material will, through their movement or shifting, break one of these seals and cause the Golem to go Berserk.  Iron or other metallics? Not so much.Slainte,-Loonook.</blockquote>

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