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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1226436" data-attributes="member: 2629">There is still a lot o disagreement on whether shape changing spells that incidentally increase size count as size changing spells. No definite answer has been given by WotC (as far as I know.) This is just one of thousands of rules issues that WotC has decided are not worth answering. Their new policy of 'just the minimum errata' is really ticking me off.I play in a few different games (most play less than once per month). I have a heck of a time keeping all the rules in mind. Each DM has made different rulings on the vague core rules. We spend far too much time trying to figure out the rules on how something should be done. It is so frustrating ...As for general concensus: This issue has been split down the middle on most threads. Half the DMs/players think they should not stack, half the DMs think they should.If you want to pull back the power of shapechange/polymorph, I'd suggest not allowing it to stack with spells that increase size. If you don't consider there to be balance issues with shapechange/polymorph, I'd then just go with my gut feeling on what should happen.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 1226436, member: 2629"] There is still a lot o disagreement on whether shape changing spells that incidentally increase size count as size changing spells. No definite answer has been given by WotC (as far as I know.) This is just one of thousands of rules issues that WotC has decided are not worth answering. Their new policy of 'just the minimum errata' is really ticking me off. I play in a few different games (most play less than once per month). I have a heck of a time keeping all the rules in mind. Each DM has made different rulings on the vague core rules. We spend far too much time trying to figure out the rules on how something should be done. It is so frustrating ... As for general concensus: This issue has been split down the middle on most threads. Half the DMs/players think they should not stack, half the DMs think they should. If you want to pull back the power of shapechange/polymorph, I'd suggest not allowing it to stack with spells that increase size. If you don't consider there to be balance issues with shapechange/polymorph, I'd then just go with my gut feeling on what should happen. [/QUOTE]

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