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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 1138826" data-attributes="member: 2209">On the one side, they are touch attacks with full attack bonuses. with a first level orb spell you can get 5, with a 4th level orb spell you can get ten, I believe. Only applicable against opponents within 30 feet who are denied dex against attack.However, they take a spell which must be expended and then are gone for the day. Slightly countered by the ability to make wands.Full attack actions multiple attacks against normal AC, and attack bonuses go down for TWF/Rapid shot and iterative attacks. However, this can be done round after round, fight after fight. Bow has same restrictions as orbs, but TWF can be done with flanking as well.I see the power balances, I'm trying to get 3.5 rules definitions to give to the DM for applying to the arcane trickster in our group and the 3.0 T&B orb spells I recommended he take.His view is separate rolls means separate attacks and from the rules as written, that looks right to me as well right now.</blockquote>