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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5591019" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Kitcik, I asked that question early on in the thread, and I don't think I ever got an answer.My answer would be:  I don't know.  Items are based on spells, but aren't the spells, and often do things the spells don't.  I wouldn't allow the spell and the ring to stack on the same element, but that comes under the rule that Jimlock provided from Rules Compendium.As an example of items that don't work like the spells:  You can stack Shield with Mage Armor, but not with Bracers of Armor, even though the Bracers are based on the same spell.  And even though a Ring of Protection is based on the Protection from Evil/Good spell, and gives the same type of bonus, it doesn't ward summoned or enchanted creatures.Jimlock, are you asking me to list every exception to "usually" in that rule?  There are some spells and spell effects that include specific exceptions to normal rules, or include phrasing that clarifies how some rules work.  So rather than try to find and list all such spells and spell like effects, I'll just point out that such exceptions can exist and call it a day.I know, for example, that there are some items that grant multiple energy resistances, though they tend to be rare and expensive.  They'd be outside of that "usually".  Shield of the Sun, for example, provides an energy resistance 10 against all energy types.</blockquote>