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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 3289363" data-attributes="member: 3051"><p>Ignore Savage Species. The system in there just stinks. Besides, I thought it said LA-1 for each size BELOW Small; Small and Medium are comparable in power, no penalty needed. (It's the loss of reach and movement speed that kills a Tiny race.) I always use Soldarin's system to ballpark LA's, but even that fails in this case.</p><p></p><p>It's on the strong side for LA+0, for a few reasons. Basically, you've given a perfect example of why purely numerical class balance systems don't always work; while the individual abilities are just fine for an LA+0 race, the sum total isn't. Here's why.</p><p>> It adds to a spellcasting stat, which is something LA+0 races normally steer clear of, simply because of the effect you're aiming for: this would become THE race for Psions.</p><p>> Even though you've got a net "loss" in stats, you're using three dump stats to raise two of the most important stats, so it's not really equal. If one of the negatives was CON, that'd be a little different, but a Psion gives up nothing significant here (even the loss in Will from WIS is made up for by the class' Good will save). So no, the stats aren't "balanced".</p><p>> 1 power point per level is a LOT (that's what you'd get from raising your INT by another 4!) There's a reason the official "Naturally Psionic" ability always gives a flat 2 points.</p><p>> A Feat they can select is stronger than being given a specific Feat, or even a Feat from a limited list.</p><p>> All you're really giving up are the "flavor" abilities nearly every other race gets. IMO, you should always have a few of these, because if every race boils down to stats and feats then there's nothing really unique about it. But more importantly, you're "trading" things that might only be useful in limited situations for something universally useful (the free Feat). It's just far, far more valuable.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd never allow it. If you wanted to up it to an LA+1 race, that'd be different; you'd only need a few tweaks to be acceptable there. But as is, no way.</p><p></p><p>Now, I've played Psions and Psychic Warriors, and I'm a card-carrying Friar in the Church of Munchkin (for a BattleMech rule abuse I found long ago, involving a couple dozen Clan ER LLs). So don't think I'm one of those people who'd shoot down everything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 3289363, member: 3051"] Ignore Savage Species. The system in there just stinks. Besides, I thought it said LA-1 for each size BELOW Small; Small and Medium are comparable in power, no penalty needed. (It's the loss of reach and movement speed that kills a Tiny race.) I always use Soldarin's system to ballpark LA's, but even that fails in this case. It's on the strong side for LA+0, for a few reasons. Basically, you've given a perfect example of why purely numerical class balance systems don't always work; while the individual abilities are just fine for an LA+0 race, the sum total isn't. Here's why. > It adds to a spellcasting stat, which is something LA+0 races normally steer clear of, simply because of the effect you're aiming for: this would become THE race for Psions. > Even though you've got a net "loss" in stats, you're using three dump stats to raise two of the most important stats, so it's not really equal. If one of the negatives was CON, that'd be a little different, but a Psion gives up nothing significant here (even the loss in Will from WIS is made up for by the class' Good will save). So no, the stats aren't "balanced". > 1 power point per level is a LOT (that's what you'd get from raising your INT by another 4!) There's a reason the official "Naturally Psionic" ability always gives a flat 2 points. > A Feat they can select is stronger than being given a specific Feat, or even a Feat from a limited list. > All you're really giving up are the "flavor" abilities nearly every other race gets. IMO, you should always have a few of these, because if every race boils down to stats and feats then there's nothing really unique about it. But more importantly, you're "trading" things that might only be useful in limited situations for something universally useful (the free Feat). It's just far, far more valuable. Personally, I'd never allow it. If you wanted to up it to an LA+1 race, that'd be different; you'd only need a few tweaks to be acceptable there. But as is, no way. Now, I've played Psions and Psychic Warriors, and I'm a card-carrying Friar in the Church of Munchkin (for a BattleMech rule abuse I found long ago, involving a couple dozen Clan ER LLs). So don't think I'm one of those people who'd shoot down everything. [/QUOTE]
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