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<blockquote data-quote="loganic" data-source="post: 4029386" data-attributes="member: 59176"><p>I still think Black Blade of Destruction is one of the most powerful weapons in the game.</p><p>On Fort check, fail equals disintegration, save equals 2d6x caster level ~ lets say 40d6 as a typical 20.</p><p></p><p>A normal warlock, with hellfire PrC and normal warlock items and haste, could hit </p><p>8 x ( 40d6 + [maximized] 27d6 ) with a fort check on each one to see. It's possinle to pump that 8x quite a bite more with staff of timestop in a castor glove and or more belts of battle which you pay double to stack.</p><p></p><p>(140(averag dmg) + 162 maximized ) = 302 per hit</p><p>302 * 8 = 2416</p><p></p><p>If you use time stop. Even if you get unlucky you can double that becayse TS would add double that. TS would multiply that damage by x2-x3.5</p><p>The definition of the glaive is such that it is until the end of the turn so as to allow AoO, and as such, the maximize lasts the whole time.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if belt of battle stacks with that. Even then, you'd only lose out on 1208</p><p></p><p>Assuming your character might be like mine and have a low cha, so the DC is so low, the only way for it to work is if the opponent rolls a one.</p><p>At the end of the day, with belt of battle, you will hit 16-28 times. The chance he won't hit a single one is only about (median of 24%-44% depending on # of hits) 32%.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but I don't know of any character, even a wizard or sorceror who can do better dps against a single target. </p><p>You can only do this for a single turn, but in that one turn, you could on average, on all hits, deal 6644. Since touch AC is so negligably low, the miss/crit chance on most creature is negiigable and mostly cancels. So thats 6.7k dmg with a 68% of an outright disintegration. Even if deathward or anti-death effects are active, there are still few creatures that could survive that. DR and SR doesnt apply since Vitrolic blast would bypass that.</p><p></p><p>Out of curiosity, I calculated the max. The maximum damage if you rolled the maximum on all dice. 11256. </p><p></p><p>Great damage right? Well it's not cheap. I think it will cost you closer to a mill to get everything. Not sure exactly how much but between 500k-1mill. There are tricks to getting it a little cheaper, but I'm not going to share it.</p><p></p><p>Only character class on par in damage might be a cleric. A cleric with a max of 32 or 34 wisdom, could cast enough death spells in that same time with a high enough DC to outweigh what a warlock can do. Plus his insane Wis would allow him to continue casting it for many turns, while the warlock's eldritch bonus damage will go down to 13d6 non maximized, plus the original 40d6. 53d6 with a 5% chance of disintegration per hit isn't bad, but could be better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="loganic, post: 4029386, member: 59176"] I still think Black Blade of Destruction is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. On Fort check, fail equals disintegration, save equals 2d6x caster level ~ lets say 40d6 as a typical 20. A normal warlock, with hellfire PrC and normal warlock items and haste, could hit 8 x ( 40d6 + [maximized] 27d6 ) with a fort check on each one to see. It's possinle to pump that 8x quite a bite more with staff of timestop in a castor glove and or more belts of battle which you pay double to stack. (140(averag dmg) + 162 maximized ) = 302 per hit 302 * 8 = 2416 If you use time stop. Even if you get unlucky you can double that becayse TS would add double that. TS would multiply that damage by x2-x3.5 The definition of the glaive is such that it is until the end of the turn so as to allow AoO, and as such, the maximize lasts the whole time. I'm not sure if belt of battle stacks with that. Even then, you'd only lose out on 1208 Assuming your character might be like mine and have a low cha, so the DC is so low, the only way for it to work is if the opponent rolls a one. At the end of the day, with belt of battle, you will hit 16-28 times. The chance he won't hit a single one is only about (median of 24%-44% depending on # of hits) 32%. I'm sorry, but I don't know of any character, even a wizard or sorceror who can do better dps against a single target. You can only do this for a single turn, but in that one turn, you could on average, on all hits, deal 6644. Since touch AC is so negligably low, the miss/crit chance on most creature is negiigable and mostly cancels. So thats 6.7k dmg with a 68% of an outright disintegration. Even if deathward or anti-death effects are active, there are still few creatures that could survive that. DR and SR doesnt apply since Vitrolic blast would bypass that. Out of curiosity, I calculated the max. The maximum damage if you rolled the maximum on all dice. 11256. Great damage right? Well it's not cheap. I think it will cost you closer to a mill to get everything. Not sure exactly how much but between 500k-1mill. There are tricks to getting it a little cheaper, but I'm not going to share it. Only character class on par in damage might be a cleric. A cleric with a max of 32 or 34 wisdom, could cast enough death spells in that same time with a high enough DC to outweigh what a warlock can do. Plus his insane Wis would allow him to continue casting it for many turns, while the warlock's eldritch bonus damage will go down to 13d6 non maximized, plus the original 40d6. 53d6 with a 5% chance of disintegration per hit isn't bad, but could be better. [/QUOTE]
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