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<blockquote data-quote="DrunkonDuty" data-source="post: 3812590" data-attributes="member: 54364"><p>Warning: very quiet day here at work. I'm probably going to crap on for ages.</p><p></p><p>KrazyHades: These strike me as clearly stated definitions. And when it comes down to it that's enough. If there's one thing I learnt from my liberal arts degree it's that definitons are defined through the process you are starting here. Thesis+ Antithesis = Synthesis. Another thing I learnt from said degree is that you will never get everyone to agree with your definition. The more esoteric the circles (like for instance a bunch of literature professors arguning over which is the greater epic, Beowulf or the Chanson de Roland, a RL example) the less agreement. And gamer's messgae boards are very, um, esoteric.</p><p></p><p>So on to my own views.</p><p></p><p>I broadly agree with the OP's definitons. Obviously there's over-lap. And no one player is necessarily always be one or the other. eg: A friend of mine is an inveterate power-gamer who at times slips into munchkinism.</p><p></p><p>And of course any one person's definition of "broken" and "good" is going to effect the definitions even as stated. (Which you obviously understand from your use of parenthesis.) I'd go so far as to say that certain feats/spells/etc can be defined as broken or not in different ways by by the same person in different circumstances: what is fine in one campaign is not fine in another.</p><p></p><p>So one element I would like to make explicit is the degree of pushing of the envelope seems to be the defining point. Making the line between a Power Gamer and a Munchkin one of degree only rather than any fundamental difference.</p><p></p><p>not as long as I feared. </p><p>cHEERS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrunkonDuty, post: 3812590, member: 54364"] Warning: very quiet day here at work. I'm probably going to crap on for ages. KrazyHades: These strike me as clearly stated definitions. And when it comes down to it that's enough. If there's one thing I learnt from my liberal arts degree it's that definitons are defined through the process you are starting here. Thesis+ Antithesis = Synthesis. Another thing I learnt from said degree is that you will never get everyone to agree with your definition. The more esoteric the circles (like for instance a bunch of literature professors arguning over which is the greater epic, Beowulf or the Chanson de Roland, a RL example) the less agreement. And gamer's messgae boards are very, um, esoteric. So on to my own views. I broadly agree with the OP's definitons. Obviously there's over-lap. And no one player is necessarily always be one or the other. eg: A friend of mine is an inveterate power-gamer who at times slips into munchkinism. And of course any one person's definition of "broken" and "good" is going to effect the definitions even as stated. (Which you obviously understand from your use of parenthesis.) I'd go so far as to say that certain feats/spells/etc can be defined as broken or not in different ways by by the same person in different circumstances: what is fine in one campaign is not fine in another. So one element I would like to make explicit is the degree of pushing of the envelope seems to be the defining point. Making the line between a Power Gamer and a Munchkin one of degree only rather than any fundamental difference. not as long as I feared. cHEERS. [/QUOTE]
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