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Message: <blockquote data-quote="William drake" data-source="post: 3814150" data-attributes="member: 49143">I agreeI think Munchkins are only labled ones they are disliked by the party, but in truth...they are the same as powergamers. I think one becomes a Munch when he or she is seen as a cheater, or getting to close to it that it bothers the players and the DM. Yet, it is the DM's ability to set things straight, and it is sometimes by the DM's weakness that nothing is done. I see it this way.If You build your charater with concept , unique utility, and RP'ing style in mind and without the need to have +18's or higher in every spot, or without needing the greastest HP...than I say your doing something right. No one should be blamed for playing an all-around tough if not powerful charcter as long as they know that they are not GODs and should not be seen as such; by the players, Dm or the other NPCS in the game.Ego is the one thing that Players can deal without.On the other side of this is.If YOU have to have the highest (+) or the greatest weapon, or all the skills...or be the best at w/e it is the party is doing, than you get your enjoyment from all the wrong places and could be seen to be a Munch-Powergamer whos optimized his charcter to the point that the weight of it all should alone cause him to die.Now, a few lines of thought so that the players who get away with such things don't think its all their fault.If a player comes to you and he says."I want to play a Warforge, barbarian, berserker, Monk, Ninja....what'd think?"And the DM says "ok" Its now the DM's fault and he should be now willing to you let you play the walking paradox that you are. *This example can be made many ways, but the point remains.*Anyways.  Game On</blockquote>

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