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<blockquote data-quote="aco175" data-source="post: 9502645" data-attributes="member: 27385">Do not forget backgrounds and feats.&nbsp; If I'm a criminal- I know people already through the rules, or a folk hero getting free lodging.&nbsp; Add more here over just giving more stuff to non-casters and saying &quot;Magic need not apply.&quot;&nbsp; Also think about multiclassed casters or sub-classed casters and how an arcane trickster can now do all these shortcut things we decry, but we already given him all the other things.&nbsp; What about science.&nbsp; If the magic man can light his pipe with snapping his fingers, I can use this tindertwig or Bic lighter.&nbsp; If he can charm person, I can use Persuasion or Deception.&nbsp; If he can have mops and buckets animate to clean the room, I can hire a few people or get my folk hero background to have someone lend me a hand cleaning.&nbsp; I'm reminded of the PSA chasing rainbows all the This class sucks threads so we need to boost them, which just puts another class in need of a boost.[MEDIA=youtube]fordPXp06h4[/MEDIA]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aco175, post: 9502645, member: 27385"] Do not forget backgrounds and feats. If I'm a criminal- I know people already through the rules, or a folk hero getting free lodging. Add more here over just giving more stuff to non-casters and saying "Magic need not apply." Also think about multiclassed casters or sub-classed casters and how an arcane trickster can now do all these shortcut things we decry, but we already given him all the other things. What about science. If the magic man can light his pipe with snapping his fingers, I can use this tindertwig or Bic lighter. If he can charm person, I can use Persuasion or Deception. If he can have mops and buckets animate to clean the room, I can hire a few people or get my folk hero background to have someone lend me a hand cleaning. I'm reminded of the PSA chasing rainbows all the This class sucks threads so we need to boost them, which just puts another class in need of a boost. [MEDIA=youtube]fordPXp06h4[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]

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